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 Max coil Output Help Please?
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vesperhbt
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2009 :  6:28:31 PM  Show Profile  Send vesperhbt a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Okay here is the example:

32 Coils would with 22sgw mag wire and a iron core. with 500 windings
size is 1" deep and 2" across with a 1/2" core rotor magnets are .50" x .75" neo magnets

set 1 single pulse set 2 has 2 pulses.



set 1 of 16 coils receives a mag pulse every 19 deg

set 2 of 16 gets 2 receives a mag pulses every 9.5 deg.

Motor revaluations are 2000 rpm


What is the total power output from these slave coils

Can some one help me out with the total power output?

thanks

vesperhbt

Lorke
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USA
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  09:27:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am not seeing it. However you will need to know the power supplied , Mag fulx density and distance of the mags to the prim coils as well as the distance of the Primary coils to each secondary and there orientation.

Is this unit already built?

****Its like building a puzzle but you have never seen the picture, and you only get 3 pieces a week.****
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vesperhbt
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USA
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Posted - 03/11/2009 :  05:41:59 AM  Show Profile  Send vesperhbt a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I have been building this in AutoCad and a real life testing program for the last few months So Yes it is built in a digital world but not in real life at present

I just ordered an new CNC machine for this making of the motor I have a 3 axis but I need a 6 axis machine to cut the parts.

On the supply voltage lets just say there is not a supply voltage in these coils just the field generated by the magnet passing over the coil.

this is the power I need to figure. Just the raw magnetic power that is created by a said coil and said magnet passing over the coil yields a guesstimated amount of voltage and amps?

vesperhbt
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cass
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USA
132 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2009 :  4:30:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
vesperhbt...are you talking about like a three phase generator type of set up? if i understand what you are talking about correctly you plan to have a rotor with magnets on it passing by or through or past a serious of coils to generate power?...i think this video will be of some interest to..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=t1H6QsDPl54
the part of the device i am talking about is the generator setup on the far left of the entire build.

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vesperhbt
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USA
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Posted - 04/11/2009 :  05:40:15 AM  Show Profile  Send vesperhbt a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Yes that was a great help and it is along that line but my configure is vastly different from what the DaffMan did but the idea works.

Thank you for your help. In my model the coils are receiving duel pulses across every coil at about 20 deg off set from one another so in the video it is only receiving one magnet passing over the coil mine will receive 2. It is hard to explain but think of a layer cake and my coils are the frosting and the cake is the rotors.

If that makes any sense.

vesperhbt
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cass
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USA
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Posted - 04/11/2009 :  5:43:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hmmm very interesting...do you plan on putting your coils between the two magnets..like say one magnet on each side of the coil?

()|------|()

|-----| = your coil
() = magnet

in this setup there would be two separate rotors with magnets on it, while the coil is in the middle...this is what i plan on doing also

"Think of an Idea to Change our World, and put it Into Action"
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vesperhbt
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USA
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Posted - 04/11/2009 :  6:40:26 PM  Show Profile  Send vesperhbt a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Yes..... only I have the coils in the middle and the magnets on the outside attached to the rotor and offset at 20 degrees from each other( the magnets are offset)


()/------/
()

Kind of like above illustration

I have been testing this for some time and have found huge gains in the field generation by offsetting. The trick is timing and the correct offset for each setup and the -N- and -S- on the magnets to create a back charge in the coil for a new wave on each magnetic passover.

My new motor is about the size of a truck rim and I think based on my computer modeling it will run its self and I could run my home on my new design. (Giving it is not real and inside a computer full of calculations to simulate real life conditions that may all go to the birds once built) But it is worth a try.

I have built a small older version of this to power my gulf cart and before I installed the motor I could only have 2 hours of run time before needing a charge. After I installed I could run all day and no problems I just have to let my motor run to keep the battery's charged between uses. It takes 15 min to charge a 12 volt cart battery to full from 9V depletion. So not bad at all. I put this in 2 years ago and use it all the time I never plug in the cart anymore. (If I drain the battery down past 9 volts the system crashes)

My new motor will spin at 3,000 rpms and a torque of 250 foot pounds. Plenty to run a generator of sorts, then connect this to the home DC to AC converter and I'm all set.

Well I hope.

vesperhbt
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vesperhbt
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USA
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Posted - 04/11/2009 :  6:42:29 PM  Show Profile  Send vesperhbt a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Illistration fix

()/-----/
.........()

..... for spacing only ()= magnets /------/ = coil

vesperhbt
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cass
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USA
132 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2009 :  9:31:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
vesperhbt...this is very interesting, i feel that we are building a device along the same lines of each other i am very interested in how yours turns out
i myself do not have a computer program or a capable computer to see if my idea would actually work, instead i have to build it to see it.
but yes i do agree with your set up of the magnets and the coil that it would definitely benefit the system.

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vesperhbt
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USA
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Posted - 05/11/2009 :  05:22:52 AM  Show Profile  Send vesperhbt a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Yes I feel we are in the same mindset on this project, as for the programs I have them for my business you can see it what I do by searching youtube for vesperhbt, I have several videos there on what my company does if you are interested.

Well I hope to start building early next month so I think you will beat me to it since you are getting ready as we speak.

LOL
vesperhbt
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