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JustAnElectrician
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
Advanced Member
Netherlands
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Posted - 17/10/2009 : 9:56:07 PM
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when it comes 2 money people will do anything 2 get some...1 just have 2 b careful.
just look @ Special K kellogs cornflakes.
package say...high in iron...and they dont mean as in a mineral...but as in scrap metal.
here in holland a test was made using just a Neodym magnete...results where scarry.
and 1 service desk employe from germany confirmed that it is pure scrap metal that has been smashed 2 a pulp.
Peace!
V2DAY
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cass
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 17/10/2009 : 11:42:42 PM
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hey JustAnElectrician, just wanted to say that i have purchased the magniwork thing. i have built many types of magnet motors and i have to say, i can not understand their plans at all. when i bought it, i thought they were going to mail me the book or something, but instead they just sent me a website and i had to download it. i am extremely disappointed with it and i wish i never bought it but oh well, we live and learn.
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JustAnElectrician
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 24/10/2009 : 12:33:21 AM
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thx CASS!
If you would hook us up with the plans, perhaps we could help?
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cass
Senior Member
USA
138 Posts |
Posted - 26/10/2009 : 3:42:02 PM
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hey let me know if you got the pictures
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vesperhbt
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 26/10/2009 : 4:04:34 PM
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YES I AGREE LETS ALL HAVE A LOOK AT THIS SPRUCE GOOSE??
if it can be done we can do it between us all.
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cass
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 27/10/2009 : 03:54:38 AM
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hey everyone check this out, i was looking at one of the posts here at teep one of the people posted a site to look at it. the site is exactly what the magniwork generator is. this is the forum http://teep.forumco.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=350
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JustAnElectrician
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 12:57:46 AM
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http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/mromag.htm
Here is where magniwork stole the idea, it's already open-source. Bastards...
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vesperhbt
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 03:57:38 AM
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I'm so glad I was not the only one to find this. Hummmmm Some one here was using these drawings as there own a few days ago. CW knows whom I am referring to. It is interesting.
Good post and reference material.
vesperhbt
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
Advanced Member
Netherlands
333 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2009 : 12:59:10 PM
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nice link there JustAnElectrician...:))
be4 buying any circuit or device plans online better ask here on the forum(s) or go online and google/yahoo it just 4 ur own good...
save u alot of disapointment...
Peace!
V2DAY
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JustAnElectrician
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 11/11/2009 : 6:10:58 PM
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You all got me started in the right direction... THANX!
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vesperhbt
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 11/11/2009 : 6:39:14 PM
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It is really not a problem at all that is why this forum is here to discuss the real the practical and the hoax, everyone will need different help and have different ideas to discuss that is why it is important to get involved as much as anyone can. this way we can all move forward with new concepts and ideas.
Glad to have helped
vesperhbt
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comwarrior
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 11/11/2009 : 8:12:34 PM
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their are a lot of scammers out their... the amusing bit that i read was...
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The spinning magnets is secured on an aluminum platform. The platform is connected to a central shaft that drives a DC electric generator. The same type of generator used on a bicycle. The power produced is in actual fact comes from the DC generator.
DC motors make very in-efficient generators and are subject to LENZ
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Here’s the catch, the Magniwork generator is “not” a perpetual motion device. Many people had mistaken that. The magnet bars will loose its spinning momentum due to friction.
OK, this above line made me allmost wet myself laughing so much... "The magnet bars will loose its spinning momentum due to friction." - in other words you give it a flick and the rotor slows down and stops... And thats diferent to mine, how exactly?
no offecnce to cass... many other people have been duped at one stage or another... "mylow" springs to mind...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
"Every Action has an equal and opposite re-action" - Why not use the re-action to create an additional action?
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
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cass
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 11/11/2009 : 9:13:07 PM
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lol hey its alright man, i was not well informed in these type of devices when i purchased the magniwork plans....it was a horrible mistake lol, but we learn from our mistakes so i guess i am happy that i did it so i can say i wont ever do that again
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vesperhbt
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 11/11/2009 : 9:25:16 PM
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Yes I'm glad that we can cross reference and bounce ideas off each other. It is easy to get caught up in a video and loose your objectivity. We are all TV programed to believe what we see on film. The fact is most every film leaves out bits of information.
So here we discuss the facts:::: nothing more then that. If it works and can be backed up in testing, then it is if it cant then there is a problem.
The easy way for you to see a scamer in this type of work is easy, they will be indecisive and not direct with the information. Yes all data may not be presented in all videos but there will be a reference to it if it is real.
So things to keep in mind::: if it is overly complicated and with out explanation most times it is a scam. I heard a quote one time. I will say it now..." If you cant dazzle them with brilliance baffle them with bull crap." Most videos that are covering up things or stealing work will try to overcomplicated with big words and theory's that do not pertain to the work you are seeing..
Watch how they turn on there work, does it make sense??? Why would you turn on the blank before the blank. Why do we never see blank. etc...
If the information seems to good to be true it most often is!!!! Unless they go over it step by step, very simply so anyone can understand the information.
All I can say is do your research and cross reference everything, does it make sense?
That is why we were here, we are all attempting to make a motor that makes power to self run and to power a load with no other power input. Can it be done? Tested? Confirmed?????
Yes it can!!!!!!
"We are only limited by our own goals, we are capable of anything if we strive to do so."
Will this be done I have no doubts, Will it be CW, You, Me, A new member???? Who Can say. What I do know is it will be done confirmed and reconfirmed, become fact, and placed in the history books right along with "the world is round" "we can fly" and "break the sound barrier in the air and land".
The fact is everything is possible with enough time and work.
"Yes" I may have a distorted way of looking at the world and life but I do not set limitations upon myself or anyone.
vesperhbt.
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cass
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 11/11/2009 : 9:30:58 PM
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i dont doubt that that we can achieve the devices we dream of and build here, the only thing i worry about is when we actually do it and we create a device that can self run and power loads with out an outside source, are "they" ---higher powers--- going to take that away from us..i believe that power/electricity/energy what ever you want to call it should be free to the people, which is why i was motivated to start trying to build these devices..
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vesperhbt
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 11/11/2009 : 9:53:08 PM
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Yes totally my thoughts but I expand this to my own objective as well and that is to repair the damage we have caused to this planet on a global scale. to the people the land and the air.
I'm not an activist by any means but I do take responsibility for the damage I cause every day by using the power coming into my home the car/truck I drive and the food I eat.
As for power it should be free for us all every where at any time and be stable and not fail. Super grids where if your system goes down your neighbor can give you power at no cost for the supply. Yes Power and other things should all be free.
But we have greed to deal with. Can this be kept off the market? Well yes if greed plays a factor but for me greed is not a factor for me i have a higher goal in mind and money does not matter to me in reference to obtaining my goals. (in other words I can not be bought)
If I do get this working I will give it away at cost for the materials and installation cost. Yes a non profit power installation company.
I am crazy I know, but so was Eddision, Goodyear, and others.
vesperhbt
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cass
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 11/11/2009 : 10:18:58 PM
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yes many others where crazy but they also did crazy things, some good some bad
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vesperhbt
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cass
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 12/11/2009 : 3:28:45 PM
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lol arnt we all a little crazy?
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vesperhbt
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 12/11/2009 : 7:54:36 PM
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If we are changing the rules and designing new things then yes we have to be on the edge.
vesperhbt
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JustAnElectrician
Advanced Member
USA
257 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2009 : 03:49:57 AM
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Originally posted by cass
hey let me know if you got the pictures
carmin
Thanks, I got it all!
LMK If I can help you sometime!
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JustAnElectrician
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USA
257 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2009 : 04:08:38 AM
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Originally posted by vesperhbt
If we are changing the rules and designing new things then yes we have to be on the edge.
vesperhbt
"The power to change the world"
www.youtube.com/vesperhbtmotor
Vesper, nice thoughts you post here. (and above)
I for 1 am kinda playing it close to the vest, I do not comment much
on other peeps projects, only to help in the smaller things if I can,
like getting over the electrical hurdles. IMO most styles of devices
are "possibly" or "likely" a waste of time, my time, but I do not try
to bring others down. For example, even if 1 were to get a working
PM machine of the "Gravity Wheel" type, what could you do with it?
It would likely only make enough excess energy to overcome friction,
and power itself. BUT those devices and SMOT ramps got me thinking
about a combo device which is part SPRAIN Motor and SMOT ramp and
uses gravity as well. Likely a winner, but I need many magnets and
a gauss meter to calibrate it. Plus, it is likely already in the
process of being patented, however, if mine worked and the original
did not, I would have a "substantial improvement" and could get it.
That is not even my main thrust, perhaps I could open source it HERE
and get all the TEEPer's on it!
Just a few thoughts, this is such a great place DM has made for us,
kinda like the island of "misfit toys" :D
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vesperhbt
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 15/11/2009 : 2:17:06 PM
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I don't mean to be blunt all the time but I do speak my mind, and I have a big heart for the work of others but I don't like to see someone be taken. I do take offense to scammers. It hurt's the integrity of what we few real changers are trying to do.
Don't mean to put anyone down at all, however some times the Truth is the best, even if it stings a little.
Maybe I missed the mark I don't know...
vesperhbt
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JustAnElectrician
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 15/11/2009 : 10:29:45 PM
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right on target AFAIK!
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cass
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 15/11/2009 : 11:20:10 PM
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i would rather be hurt by the truth then not be told the truth at all
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MAGNIWORK: What is it exactly?
