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salzahrah
Starting Member
USA
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 Posted - 15/10/2009 : 8:35:54 PM
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Ok so im new to all the electronics and stuff so i need some help. Ok is overunity reached when the amount of amps going out of the charging battery equals the amount of amps going into the charging battery?
Or is it like, if i have a 12v power battery charging a 5v battery and the 12v drops to 10v and the 5v goes to 7v?
And i keep hearing overunity has not been reached (theDaftman) and apparently it has?
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
Advanced Member
Netherlands
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Posted - 16/10/2009 : 09:06:29 AM
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hi salzahrah
i dont know if i had been done or not(overunity)...dont really care either...:P
just stick around and just maybe u will see get done right here...:))
Peace!
V2DAY
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/10/2009 : 6:13:20 PM
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a few people have made claims, but i've seen nothing concret nor anything on the news...
i've also not seen anyone produce evidence of an efficiency highr than mine (95%) but then again, since i have been developing my curent system i havn't been paying much attention to everyone else...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
"Every Action has an equal and opposite re-action" - Why not use the re-action to create an additional action?
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
Advanced Member
Netherlands
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Posted - 17/10/2009 : 05:44:26 AM
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*anyone produce evidence of an efficiency highr than mine (95%)
ur challenge has been taking on m8...will smash it 2 pieces...:))...or not haha...
only time will tell m8...
i`ve read somewhere that 4 1 2 get a patent on a overunity device it have to b like 400 percent overuntiy...
i will smash that also 2 pieces o.O...haha...now i really lost ma mind...time 2 go look 4 it...hahaha
only time will tell m8...lets all just keep pushing this 2 its limits...till we crack it...or till we b a crackpot(or is it crackhead?) ourself...haha ;-)
Peace!
V2DAY
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salzahrah
Starting Member
USA
19 Posts |
Posted - 18/10/2009 : 1:02:14 PM
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i c.
but like is there way to calculate it? |
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/10/2009 : 11:14:04 AM
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is their a way to calculate it... yes and no... sorry, not in a straight answer mood again today...
the allmost acceptble method is to measure input wattage againsed output wattage...
Wattage is measured Volts X Amps...
However... (3 counts)...
1) I've kicked a few people for doing it wrong...
you NEED to output DC not AC... and you need to place a static load such as a resister on the output and then you measure the voltage across the resister and the current going into the resister...
2) Measuring the input curent also has problems because the load is not static, it's pulsed curent draw... Therefor their are doubts as to the acuracy of ether a digital multimeter or an analogue needle meter...
3) Their is a way of proving overunity by using capacitors instead of batteries...
So, you setup a closed loop system when the generated output feeds into the cap bank and the device input power comes from the cap bank...
Now, to prove OVERunity, you then take power from the cap back and light up a light bulb... even if it's just a low wattage LED... but you also need to show the cap bank voltage to show it is stable... you also need to show all the wires, under the desk around the desk etc etc ...However, if you have a super sized cap bank then you need to make a full 10 min video showing the device constantly producing power...
Basically, you need to show your not cheating! if someone challenges you and wants you to prove something then you've got to prove it so their is no doubt in anyones mind...
(output watts / input watts) X 100 = your device % efficiency
I did a vid on this...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
"Every Action has an equal and opposite re-action" - Why not use the re-action to create an additional action?
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20/10/2009 : 11:23:08 AM
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Originally posted by salzahrah
Or is it like, if i have a 12v power battery charging a 5v battery and the 12v drops to 10v and the 5v goes to 7v?
if your using a bedini circuit, then their is no 'direct connection' between your primary battery and your charge battery...
when the drive coil is energised by the primary battery it produces a magnetic field. When the power to the drive coil is cut the magnetic field abruptly collapses resulting in power being 'generated' but in reverse polarity to the primary battery...
This 'generated' power is then fed to the charge battery...
So, to answer your question... No, the battery voltages do not 'equalise' in the manner you've indicated...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
"Every Action has an equal and opposite re-action" - Why not use the re-action to create an additional action?
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
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Lorke
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 02/11/2009 : 09:44:38 AM
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There is a claim of 'overunity' from a steam type generator. IMPORTANT to note the inventor did NOT make this claim. Its a way of heating water with friction I gather and seems most efficient. but as the inventor says "Overunity would now depend on how one harvests the steam energy." He was only after hot water efficiently, and is happy to be using power to do it. lol.
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vesperhbt
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 03/11/2009 : 05:36:02 AM
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I am designing a motor at this point that I have in Auto-Cad and in a real life computer simulation that is totally self sustaining and providing lots of extra power as well I am fine tuning this motor and will be making a real life prototype very soon.
It is a combination of several different ideas and allot of work on the fields produced by the coil and the magnet combined into a rotor type of unit.
It is very expensive to build an thus the design work in the computer, and all the weird post I do as well as the basic questions and Ideas, I don't want to miss something so basic.
Will it work in real life don't know but I hope to find out.
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JustAnElectrician
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 08:31:51 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by vesperhbt
I am designing a motor at this point that I have in Auto-Cad and in a real life computer simulation that is totally self sustaining and providing lots of extra power as well I am fine tuning this motor and will be making a real life prototype very soon.
It is a combination of several different ideas and allot of work on the fields produced by the coil and the magnet combined into a rotor type of unit.
It is very expensive to build an thus the design work in the computer, and all the weird post I do as well as the basic questions and Ideas, I don't want to miss something so basic.
Will it work in real life don't know but I hope to find out.
vesperhbt
Do you have a HOME THREAD of your motor's workings?
I have seen the videos, I'd love to join the discussion.
Rob
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vesperhbt
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 4:05:30 PM
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For this motor I am describing here in this it is not built yet. The videos that I am making is of a simpler design that will lead into my hyper motor design. I will not be building this until I have confirmed all my computer work because it will cost many thousands of dollars for building the first motor. I expect it to produce 1000kw ph of usable power to load conditions at 120vac/440vac
The main discussion for the motor in the videos is "my new motor prototype" I think you have posted on this as well?
vesperhbt
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Overunity has been reached?
