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profitsareking
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 Posted - 28/07/2009 : 12:04:24 PM
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I have purchased eBook from http://www.themagneticenergygenerator.com/
The same is available from http://www.freeelectricityfreeenergy.com/
The concept is to generate free energy using a configuration of magnets. The sales pitch claimed that anyone can build this. Unfortunately, for a total newbie like me, the instructions are not detailed enough. Has anyone purchased this ebook? Have you successfully built the unit? If so, can you get in contact with me? For anyone that would be willing to help, I would be willing to send information.
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/07/2009 : 6:35:21 PM
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Apologies for not replying to your email on utube...
I get DNS errors when i try to goto those addresses...
Just by what you've said... my opinion is that theirs an 80% chance it's complete crap, however, i havn't looked at the book...
An 'extract' from th book would help... how many pages long is it?
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
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profitsareking
Starting Member
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Posted - 28/07/2009 : 7:18:44 PM
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Originally posted by comwarrior
Apologies for not replying to your email on utube...
I get DNS errors when i try to goto those addresses...
Just by what you've said... my opinion is that theirs an 80% chance it's complete crap, however, i havn't looked at the book...
An 'extract' from th book would help... how many pages long is it?
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Thanks for your reply... I will send you a copy of the ebook but I cannot do it through here. Write to my email which is (my username here) at yahoo . com Please put "Magnetic Power Generator" in the subject. Thanks!
"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69
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teep
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/07/2009 : 04:25:20 AM
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Well I have seen this Ebook advertised on most forums, I have not so far seen any positive comments from any genuine purchasers of the Ebook but that don’t mean there isn’t any.
My personal thoughts is if the info in the Ebook really works, why would anyone just be selling the info for just $49.00 = £30.72, when a professionally produced unit would potentially be worth 5 years pay and more. So for me as a company director I would be selling the book for those that can’t afford a unit and a unit for others that can. I cannot believe that the producer of the Ebook cannot find any funding to produced such a device as any number of investors would be lining up to invest in such a device, providing one can substantiate ones claims. Now proving such a claim would be strait forward by demonstrating ones prototype one based the Ebook on.
Well that’s me babbling on again.
Yours theDaftman TEEP forums administrator.
See my videos on YouTube.
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comwarrior
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United Kingdom
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teep
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
345 Posts |
Posted - 30/07/2009 : 04:14:08 AM
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comwarrior interesting website you posted, weather the work within it is the same as profitsareking is referring I cannot say for definite but in principle the theory appear to be the same.
But even in that website one isn’t getting the whole picture in fact some on the content conflict and some aria of construction are difficult to understand.
Like 14 in the diagram below.
Is this one peace of pipe coiled round or is it cut off lengths of tube that appears to be in the diagram if so what are the coils rapped around.
Also if you look at 20 in the second diagram and compare that to 20 in the first diagram theirs a discrepancy in the number of turns but it maybe me just getting it all wrong.
But in saying that I’ve not had the chance to digest all the info within the website or the links with in it. Maybe the info is there just not come across it yet.
Yours theDaftman TEEP forums administrator.
See my videos on YouTube.
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
457 Posts |
Posted - 30/07/2009 : 5:40:27 PM
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i'm looking at that romag and i agree their are discrepencies...
But i'm also looking at it thinking the six outer coils are in in an orentation that will seriously limit the power they produce..
But, not only that, any lenz field will be directed away from the magnets therefor their will be no fluctuations in the copper coated steel wire thus it will produce no voltage when spun...
if i'm reading the design and operation correctly...
having said that... if the stator was iron not copper then you'd get a hefty amount generated from the coils...
unfortunatly, i hate to say it... but their is a lot of crap around... THE best example would be the mylow... erm... deception
The bit that i don't get is his entire approch... why would he try to force the magnets past the 'peeks'? why didn't he conduct the unwanted parts of the magnetic field away?
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
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FLRost
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 12:11:17 AM
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Originally posted by teep
Well I have seen this Ebook advertised on most forums, I have not so far seen any positive comments from any genuine purchasers of the Ebook but that don’t mean there isn’t any.
My personal thoughts is if the info in the Ebook really works, why would anyone just be selling the info for just $49.00 = £30.72, when a professionally produced unit would potentially be worth 5 years pay and more. So for me as a company director I would be selling the book for those that can’t afford a unit and a unit for others that can. I cannot believe that the producer of the Ebook cannot find any funding to produced such a device as any number of investors would be lining up to invest in such a device, providing one can substantiate ones claims. Now proving such a claim would be strait forward by demonstrating ones prototype one based the Ebook on.
Well that’s me babbling on again.
Yours theDaftman TEEP forums administrator.
See my videos on YouTube.
http://uk.youtube.com/theDaftman
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FLRost
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 14/11/2009 : 12:15:48 AM
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I've seen this posted on line and have to believe it is some sort of a bad joke or a scam. I've learned more fromt he Daftman and this forum than what I've seen from what's been posted from this ebook. I'd rather send $50 to the Daftman for a pamphlet from him before I'd spend anything on this ebook.
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Originally posted by teep
comwarrior interesting website you posted, weather the work within it is the same as profitsareking is referring I cannot say for definite but in principle the theory appear to be the same.
But even in that website one isn’t getting the whole picture in fact some on the content conflict and some aria of construction are difficult to understand.
Like 14 in the diagram below.
Is this one peace of pipe coiled round or is it cut off lengths of tube that appears to be in the diagram if so what are the coils rapped around.
Also if you look at 20 in the second diagram and compare that to 20 in the first diagram theirs a discrepancy in the number of turns but it maybe me just getting it all wrong.
But in saying that I’ve not had the chance to digest all the info within the website or the links with in it. Maybe the info is there just not come across it yet.
Yours theDaftman TEEP forums administrator.
See my videos on YouTube.
http://uk.youtube.com/theDaftman
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vesperhbt
Advanced Member
USA
378 Posts |
Posted - 14/11/2009 : 1:51:36 PM
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Okay every one i have looked into this quite allot and I have made a sample of this device a few months ago and it does not work according to how they lead on about. it is a great drawing but thats as far as I would take this. also there is a member that keeps pushing this concept and that sight as well. I really totally believe it is just a con to get money out of people.
You are all correct there are to many mistakes and mis information.
Well I could go on but i think i have said enough.
vesperhbt
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cass
Senior Member
USA
138 Posts |
Posted - 14/11/2009 : 8:21:08 PM
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i agree lol but from my own experience, it is just a way to get money and i sadly fell for it...lol but that was before i did any research and before i built any motors myself..
"Think of an Idea to Change our World, and put it Into Action"
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
457 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2009 : 12:58:16 AM
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I made the mistake of looking at this last night right befor bed...
It was bugging me while i was in bed so i got up and took another look at it...
I went back to bed and ran through some of the physics in my head...
I'm not so sure this is a con... in theory it does have some merit...
IN THEORY...
lets assume it is spinning at 2100RPM...
the copper outer is their for a reason...
As the magnets move around the inside of the copper tube theri not attreacted to the copper BUT the copper acts as little loops of wire thus causing small lenz fields on the surface of the copper...
Heres the funky bit!
as the magnets pass over the coils, the mini lenz fields cause the coils to generate power. When the switch is closed creating a short the coils themselves produce a lenz field...
HOWEVER! the lenz field produced by that coils is the opposite of the lenz filed produced by the copper pipe and is therefor a double negative which is positive, thus the field acts on the magnets causing a positive effect pushing the magnets around...
Don't get me wrong, those two diagrams are really crap... but their is a theory behind it...
The question is... of those people that have just read this, is their anyone that doesn't have a headach yet? lol
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
"Every Action has an equal and opposite re-action" - Why not use the re-action to create an additional action?
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
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vesperhbt
Advanced Member
USA
378 Posts |
Posted - 15/11/2009 : 2:30:10 PM
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Okay I see your point CW,,, Maybe this needs another look and a revision to the concept and removal of all the flaws,,, could be there in there to prevent this from working?
I will have time this week to look into this more I may build a demo unit just for fun.
vesperhbt
"The power to change the world"
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profitsareking
Starting Member
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Posted - 15/11/2009 : 4:15:26 PM
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vesperhbt
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USA
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profitsareking
Starting Member
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Posted - 15/11/2009 : 9:19:38 PM
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Vesperhbt, Why do you have little faith? I have connected with someone on the internet who said that he will build this for me but it will be in a few months because he is just too busy right now. His words and promises prove nothing of course, but it at least demonstrates that someone thinks that the plans are viable (even if not detailed enough!). If this does not pan out, I will go with something like solar. Just this morning we had a power outage for about an hour and what a nuisance! A reminder on how dependent we are on electric power!
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FLRost
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 15/11/2009 : 9:37:40 PM
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| I have to agree with the Daftman, that you'd think the quality of the technical instructions in this ebook would be better considering. I think the collective knowledge in this forum could put together a better pamphlet with better pictures, drawings, bill of materials, and cetainly better instructions that would describe a project that a beginner could build and would work. It seems that's the real benefit of things like this forum and the intent of the ebook, get people to try it and understand it through experimentation, then apply it towards a practical application. I think there is some "doing it to do it", but it sounds like everyone here is doing it for the purposes of an ultimate applcation. And I have to admit, it is fun. |
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profitsareking
Starting Member
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 12:00:02 AM
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FLRost, I appreciate your comment. Maybe it would be FUN to do an eBook, drawing on knowledgeable members' expertise to put it together. I would love to see something like: MAGNETIC GENERATOR BUILDING PLANS FOR IDIOTS. Not that I am an idiot but this is just not my area of expertise. I can, however, put together something with very detailed instructions. I assure you that I am attempting to do this strictly for the final result. I can find other ways to have fun. If successful, I would enjoy publishing the detailed instructions for no other reason than to make it available to the world for free!
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JustAnElectrician
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 16/11/2009 : 03:51:34 AM
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Additional info here:
http://teep.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~363.asp
Seems it was already OPEN SOURCE, meaning freely shared info on the web, and some
poorly-english speaking and writing folks condensed it into an E-book :(
OPEN SOURCERER APPRENTICE!
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vesperhbt
Advanced Member
USA
378 Posts |
Posted - 16/11/2009 : 3:59:19 PM
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Well My Faith lays in the instructions presented not in the concept of its operation, I do not know how valid of a production of usable energy it will produce and to what end.
Sourcing a book is great to do and I am all for it and would help in any way I can. I had posted a response in a thread that I think and feel that power should be free for every living person on th planet. along with water.
I am doing this for this reason and to fix the damage that has been caused by the power generation plants today and yesterday. For no other reason then a better quality of life for every one. I'm not a tree hugger but I do take full responsibility for the things I consume and the attached impact it may or may not cause.
Money is not my driving force and if I get my motor to work as expected it will be made for every one wanting one at cost. ( yes a non profit energy company)
Okay I'm off my soap box sorry about that.
vesperhbt
"The power to change the world"
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JustAnElectrician
Advanced Member
USA
222 Posts |
Posted - 22/11/2009 : 06:41:11 AM
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Originally posted by profitsareking
Well if you get this to work, please let us know!
Many things are released open-source because the originators
finally decide they need help to get it to work, just my opinion...
OPEN SOURCERER APPRENTICE!
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Lorke
New Member
USA
49 Posts |
Posted - 22/11/2009 : 09:08:10 AM
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LOL JAE, THAT thought is sad, but probably true. It also might have made me not register on this or any forum on the subject if I had seen it earlier.
However now I have made a Badini/Daftman and a Imhotep fan. Then there is CW's work on the turbo being shared even before he had the Video up, and Vesper with his new motor. So many more.
I will just say "Thank you Daftman and all of teep, I am inspired by this community!"
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vesperhbt
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USA
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Lorke
New Member
USA
49 Posts |
Posted - 22/11/2009 : 09:51:14 AM
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Copper, graphite and other diamagnetic substances, are repelled by a nearby magnet (although the effect is extremely feeble). Think of it as a manifestation of Lenz's law. Diamagnetic materials are those whose atoms have only paired electrons.
However, In other molecules, where there are unpaired electrons, a molecule has a net or permanent magnetic moment. The 'poles' of this type of molecule tend to line up parallel with an (induced? Out-side?) field and reinforce it. Such molecules, with permanent magnetic moments are called paramagnetic, and yet most are of little use to us. The reason is that the permanent moments are continually knocked out of alignment with the field by thermal vibration, at room temperatures anyway. I do like water non the less.
Although neither diamagnetic nor paramagnetic materials are technologically important (geophysical surveying is one exception), they are much studied by physicists, and the terminology of magnetics is enriched thereby. A short QuickTime movie (388 KB) http://info.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Workshop/advice/coils/mu/diamagnet.mov
the ferromagnets: iron, nickel, cobalt and manganese, or their compounds (and a few more exotic ones as well) These are the ones we use and think of as "Magnets"
This is just a bit of summarizing off a paper I am reading. I think it helped me understand CW in his comment on 15/11/2009 above.
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vesperhbt
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 22/11/2009 : 3:12:47 PM
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So true that is why you see a few of these in my coil core mixture. Connecting the dots is fun.....
vesperhbt
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