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BiDaDiKuNuKu
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Posted - 27/05/2009 : 05:50:27 AM
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hi Teeps,
Ren : nice 2 see u here m8
just got 2day components from farnell and Neo`s from Switserland/Germany...
time 2 build the Bipolar circuit and make a better rotor...i think ima gonna make ma rotor from PVC...they do have good diametre...for my setup...:))
still have 2 w8 for the wires tho...://
update1 : 3 pics has been added, nothing special tho... http://www.sunshinebonaire.com/Bedini-Motor/BediniMotor-Window_2.html
the last 3 r the new ones 
update2 : just added 2 more pics of ma rotors...4 the ones asking why ima making so much different types of rotor ...thats simple.
i get different info on the rotor...more/less magnetes...closer/not closer with the magnetes...so i decided ima gonna test all i can put on the 120mm diametre rotor that i have now...
like theDaftman said in 1 of hes Vids... "cant hurt playing with it"
always try even if yah think its not gonna work...well thats my opinion ofcourse
i will make a Trifiliar coil this weekend and make 2 Vids...
1 with Bifiliar coil and with the 8 & 10 pole rotor i have now.(darlington setup)
1 with Trifiliar coil and with the 8 & 10 pole rotor i have now.(Bipolar setup)
the 12 pole rotor i can make afther the 2 Vids becoz i need the magnetes of the 8pole 1 2 make the 12pole 1...
take care & Peace!
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Edited by - BiDaDiKuNuKu on 28/05/2009 10:04:15 AM |
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comwarrior
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Posted - 28/05/2009 : 04:14:56 AM
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bida, i like the work your doing looks good...
Is that a bridge rectifier at the bottom? whats it used for?
One little tip... using just red and black wires can get confusing when your trying to diagnose or upgrade...
I use red and black for live wires... yellow / purple for coil live wires and green for BEMF lines...
What system of colour coding you us it upto you... but it may make your life simpler...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
Advanced Member
Netherlands
333 Posts |
Posted - 28/05/2009 : 10:02:06 AM
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hi m8(comwarrior),
how r yah doing? hope fine
that BR is 4 4007 2gether...thats where the output is coming from...its the way i got the Diagram fron shanrenn...
u can also see it in the Bedini Sequental Bipolar Circuit thats on the net...just google it...or ima can sent it 2 u...np
btw...i havent been on MSN lately...like i told u i dont use it much...but ima still here tho
and yes, about the color coding...u r right but at the monent when i was working on it i didnt have any other colors.
using different color does make life easy
take care & Peace! |
Edited by - BiDaDiKuNuKu on 28/05/2009 10:02:50 AM |
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comwarrior
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Posted - 28/05/2009 : 7:40:24 PM
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I'm a little disturbed at how much hate mail i've recieved... it would seem i've upset a few people for being able to re-use BEMF...
oh well, i guess they going to be even more upset with my next video... lets just say, that sequential bipolar circuit gave me an idea... but it does depend on if i can get it to work but the theory is 100% sound...
This one is going to raise a few eyebrows...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
Advanced Member
Netherlands
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Posted - 29/05/2009 : 05:13:17 AM
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hey m8,
u`ve gotten hate mails...thats so not cool.
well...dont focus on that...focus on the positive ones.
good that the Bipolar circuit gave u an idea...i say GO4IT :)
nice 1...cant w8 2 see ur next vid about using the BEMF 4 100%
http://www.youtube.com/user/BiDaDiKuNuKu
take care m8 & Peace! |
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
Advanced Member
Netherlands
333 Posts |
Posted - 31/05/2009 : 2:46:29 PM
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hi teeps,
just a quick update...nothing special...just ma Hobby Place that i made yesterday.
was getting kinda fedup with all the mess in ma livingroom & that i have 2 rent a place 2 work...
now i can really concentrate without have 2 worry if i drop something on the floor or damage tha table and so on...
i promise some vids but it will have 2 w8...they will come.
take care & Peace!
Url updated...click here : http://www.kleinbonaire.com/Bedini-Motor/Hobby_Place.html |
Edited by - BiDaDiKuNuKu on 10/06/2009 07:19:50 AM |
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Ren
Starting Member
Australia
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 Posted - 08/06/2009 : 03:54:15 AM
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Every builder needs his/her workshops space! My missus is sick of me using power tools in the kitchen!
Good to see you've got some space. Manage to get that full sequential going yet?
Regards.
PS. Posted a new youtube vid today, check it out Vlad, user Shannrenn @ youtube. |
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
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Netherlands
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Posted - 08/06/2009 : 05:04:38 AM
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Hi Shan,
Yeh a working space is very welcome indeed 4 us...;-)
Working in ur home/kitchen/livingroom is a pain sometimes.:/
Yes...i finally got the Half Bipolar and Full Bipolar running...:D
I cant let it run for long on the Full Sequential Bipolar Circuit becoz the speed is 2 much...
Like u said i was missing the half of ma speed without the Full Bipolar 1...but now...AWESOME ! :)
Have 2 shut it down around 2600 RPM.
I still need some outside help 2 make some stuff 4 ma Rotor(cant buy all the machinery i need)...
But that will be done 2day so i hope:)
I will post some pics and make Vids with ma Window type running on Straight/Darlington Pair/Full Bipolar circuit.
Take care & Peace
V2DAY
PS...i have seen ur vid...sweet :) |
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
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Netherlands
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
Advanced Member
Netherlands
333 Posts |
Posted - 15/06/2009 : 4:47:01 PM
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hi teeps,
almost have ma wires...been w8ting 4 ever 4 them...they r not the ones from UK sadly...that bro(haha)don use Paypall.
and here in holland i can only get like 22m lenght 4 the 1.0mm wire...Ratzzz...:/
anyway...better something than nothing...cant w8 2 get going on the Window type...so much 2 do...:)
Peace!
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comwarrior
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/06/2009 : 6:46:00 PM
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i been thinking... and correct me if i'm wrong...
Window motors have two windings of 100 turns...
one of which is use to generate power????
Has anyone tried having the gen winding at 50% more winds that the drive wind? or is the second winding used the same way as the std bedini?
it's one thing to build and replicate whats allready been done... but not many people try experimenting, like adding two types of technology together...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
Advanced Member
Netherlands
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Posted - 20/06/2009 : 1:43:58 PM
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hi kev,
well ima been working on something like that 4 tha last 6 weeks.
becoz like u said only replicating it without trying something else wont do 4 me either :)
its going pretty good...ima found away 2 used the extra energy generated from a bedini without slowing down and interfering with tha Bedini system...
ima gonna work at it all night now till its done & make a vid...
its not ready yet like i like it 2 be but mine way of thinking is working :)
Peace!
V2DAY
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comwarrior
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/06/2009 : 6:06:43 PM
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it's allways good to create 'progress' video's... even if something doesn't work, do a vid... then people can see it and may be able to tell you why and help out...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
Advanced Member
Netherlands
333 Posts |
Posted - 23/06/2009 : 06:37:43 AM
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hi kev,
sorry 4 tha late replay...ima doing ma best 2 finished it so i can make a vid....
but i run into some problem...i`ve put some aluminium(hope i wrote it right) on the towers where ma coil must go.
this was 4 holding ma coil neatly in place but the rotor didnt want 2 run...so i nearly went insane breaking ma brain the whole sunday & monday on this.
i toke away the coil, rotor and so on...i did not know that aluminium had a bad effect on tha Bedini system???
i tought becoz the alunimium was non magnetic it wouldt make any problem...boy i was wrong://
so i replace the alu with wood :)...and finally the darn thing is working again...:)
but i did messed up tha new coil so ima back on the old 1 :/
anyway...now i jus need 2 get 2 components...i have 2 hurry becoz in a few weeks time i wont be albe 2 work on this 4 about 2 months...and i want 2 leave something 4 u TEEPS out there 2 work and 2 think about...:)
2 okman...tell theDaftman...gimme a few days more than ima finished it and can upload a Vid of it.ty
no ima not corresponding with theDaftman...ima just keeping him updated...thats all folks.i wrote this yesterday not knowing hes back since tha 11 of this month...boy oh boy oh boy
2 kev...it does work but those aluminuim thingies have put me back a few days...i hope/must finished it by friday :)
update general : what ima have done 2 the Bedini system is nothing special...i just transform it so that i can use the generated voltage without interferring with the system...in all tha vids i saw...thats where it usaully goes wrong and people leave it there...but just maybe this will blow some new life into it again...and peolpe will start building it and perfecting what ima have done till now...like i said.
update bedini :things r going well...i just finished everything...just need 2 let some parts dry(glued)...and than its time 4 tha asembly.
update bedini_2 : first run was awesome...atleast 4 me that is :)...oke Vid is coming lateron or 2morrow :)
update bedini_3 : Vid is ready BUT...its 260mb 30minutes...so the U-tube rule is 1000mb/1 Gb max...but at tha same time only 10 minutes??? ...i mean what kinda lame rule is that ...anyway...busy converting and cutting tha vid in 3...when done will upload it...
oke take care & Peace!
V2DAY |
Edited by - BiDaDiKuNuKu on 24/06/2009 1:57:08 PM |
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
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Netherlands
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Posted - 24/06/2009 : 4:16:06 PM
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hi teeps,
oke...heres tha long w8ted Vid`s(3 now) i`ve been talking about...its nothing special...but 4 me it is :)
its a simple setup that works...:) by using tha generated voltage without interfearing with tha bedini setup :))
sorry if ima don make any sence sometimes during tha Vid...ima very tired atm...2 much on ma mind.
this setup has plenty of possibility`s...:)
i will keep working on it but at a much slower pace...i still have alot of things on ma mind that i combine with it...:)
just keep an open mind...thats all u need 2 do...
BTW...if this have been done be4...sorry 4 w8sting ur time...i did not see any Vid with this setup...
anyway...hope yah enjoy it :)
click here 2 see tha new Vid : http://www.youtube.com/user/BiDaDiKuNuKu
Peace!
V2DAY
btw...audio & video r not syncronice in tha second & third vid...something went wrong when uploading...anyway...sorry bout that tho. |
Edited by - BiDaDiKuNuKu on 24/06/2009 4:44:20 PM |
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comwarrior
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/06/2009 : 06:12:37 AM
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i have just cause to doubt your max RPM reading... it's way too high...
Use a piect of white tape on one end of the shaft and see if you get same result...
other than that, looking good...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
Advanced Member
Netherlands
333 Posts |
Posted - 25/06/2009 : 5:21:50 PM
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hi kev,
mine max RPM?...well thats with the prop on tha shaft about 1100RPM...without tha prop its about 2600RPM.
so u see...having a Prop twice as Big as me rotor cut ma RPM in half...
but will check it agian...np :)
btw : 4 theDaftman...i know i said some Dafted things in ma mail 2 u...but when 1 thinks like me...well i don have limits...its a good thing and bad thing...depends on lots of things tho
btw2 : 2 kev...i`ve try 2 put ur VD on tha output of tha generator...it double tha voltage in DC but it doesnt fill ma Cap bank at all...i must be doing something wrong ...got 2 check ur Vid about VD again.
wanted 2 use it so ima fill ma CapBank quicker...
Peace!
V2DAY |
Edited by - BiDaDiKuNuKu on 25/06/2009 5:29:15 PM |
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comwarrior
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/06/2009 : 7:08:28 PM
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the VDR will only fill your cap slightly quicker... i'm guessing by 10-20%
The power output from your generator is still the same, but your using more of that power and wasting less...
I've tried to explain this to quite a few people on no one has got it... yet...
when you place ANY type of load on any type of motor it will slow down... This is normal and is to be expected...
your using the energy that would normaly be lost due to friction as heat, sound and kenetic (moving air) into mechanical energies into rotational energy and therefor eventually back into electrical...
Now, you can make THE fastest spinning bedini, but what use is it? if you want faster RPM for charging then you'll get better results with solid state bedini's...
Anything that runs at or above 1,000 RMP under load is fine... car alternators 'tick over' at about that speed (i think)
If you want to directly produce 110V or 240V then you need 3600 RPM for 60Hz and 3000 RPM for 50Hz...
Other than that, it's all good...
However, i have seen people making HUGH mistakes with measuring RPM with a laser meter...
If you bounce the laser off the magnets then you will get a significantly higher value because it's counting the magnets not the shaft...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
Advanced Member
Netherlands
333 Posts |
Posted - 26/06/2009 : 05:34:19 AM
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about ur VDR...ima gonna try that again...maybe i connected it wrong?!...thnx 4 info on that :)
here ur info about that VDR :
erm... right, from your generator you need an AC feed into the VDR (Voltage Doubling Rectifier).
The VDR replaces a bridge rectifier but you NEED an full AC sine#65279; wave for it to work propperly...
So, if your generator puts out 24VAC...
With a bridge you'll get around 22VDC...
But with a VDR you'll get 46/47VDC
about RPM...ima don messure it anymore on tha Rotor...ima doing it 2 ways...ima put some black tape around tha shaft and put a white stripe on it or ima put a small flywheel on tha shaft with black tape & white stripe..:)
these 2 ways give me tha same messurements...:)
Peace!
V2DAY
http://www.youtube.com/user/BiDaDiKuNuKu
"1 often meets his destiny on tha road he takes 2 avoid it" |
Edited by - BiDaDiKuNuKu on 26/06/2009 05:34:54 AM |
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tropes
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Posted - 26/06/2009 : 4:29:20 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by BiDaDiKuNuKu
about ur VDR...ima gonna try that again...maybe i connected it wrong?!...thnx 4 info on that :)
here ur info about that VDR :
erm... right, from your generator you need an AC feed into the VDR (Voltage Doubling Rectifier).
The VDR replaces a bridge rectifier but you NEED an full AC sine#65279; wave for it to work propperly...
So, if your generator puts out 24VAC...
With a bridge you'll get around 22VDC...
But with a VDR you'll get 46/47VDC
about RPM...ima don messure it anymore on tha Rotor...ima doing it 2 ways...ima put some black tape around tha shaft and put a white stripe on it or ima put a small flywheel on tha shaft with black tape & white stripe..:)
these 2 ways give me tha same messurements...:)
Peace!
V2DAY
http://www.youtube.com/user/BiDaDiKuNuKu
"1 often meets his destiny on tha road he takes 2 avoid it"
Hi BiDaDik
On our road to improved efficiency, I believe it is important to keep in mind that you cannot get more energy out of a circuit than you put into it. This reality will save us much disappointment.
Tropes
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
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Netherlands
333 Posts |
Posted - 27/06/2009 : 05:31:49 AM
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hi Tropes,
well...untill we don have any other info on this "cannot get more energy out of a circuit than you put into it" we will have 2 do with it...
but what we don know now at this present time doesnt say that its not possible in tha future...:)
and i personally don think that it is impossible...:)
ima very glad that i`ve managed 2 generated some extra energy and can use it without interfearing with tha Bedini system...:)
ima not trying 2 prove anything...ima only letting ma mind run like tha wind...only problem is that i cant keep up with ma own mind...i have so many idea`s that i sometimes wonder where do they come from...??
4got : always keep trying tho even if tha idea sound crazy or/and stupid...
4got 2 : and thank u 4 your concern...appriciated
Peace!
V2DAY
http://www.youtube.com/user/BiDaDiKuNuKu
"1 often meets his destiny on tha road he takes 2 avoid it" |
Edited by - BiDaDiKuNuKu on 27/06/2009 5:18:31 PM |
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comwarrior
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/07/2009 : 12:53:33 PM
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"cannot get more energy out of a circuit than you put into it"
This is true and at the same time, it's also untrue...
Two phisicas law...
"Every Action has an equal and opposite re-action"
And
"Energy can not be created nor distroyed"
the lenz effect is the re-action to drawing power from a generator coil... the re-action has to be their... the trick will be to ether delay the re-action so that it does not have anything to act againsed... or to find away of converting the lenz magnetic field into another form of energy that does not act againsed the device...
now, the attitude 'it's not possible' or should i say 'i can't do it' is all too common in this world... they said the sound barrier could not be broken... it has... man could not walk on the moon, we have... I believe that if i had the resources I can fix the world...
now... all along right from the word go i've been dropping hints in plane view as to the way i see forward...
the question is, can you see?
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
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Netherlands
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
Advanced Member
Netherlands
333 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2009 : 6:57:09 PM
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@ BiDaDiKuNuKu, i have to say, the way you use fans to bridge the power gap between the bendine generator and your current load generator, that is BRILLIANT!! i mean the fans act like a torq converter with 100% efficiency, now have you tried some sort of tube covering the fans so that all the air is focused through your generator side? that way air isn't spilling off the fan blades and you get a better response from your generator with a load on it..
"There is a fine line between genius and insanity, i often cross the line into genius." -- Albert Einstein
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hi FreedonVoltage,
thnx m8...i do ma best...:)
and yes...i have made 1 of those Tube Covering(think u can see it in tha second Vid) but its not a good 1.
and the Prop on the Gen is not a good prop either...with a proper Prop on tha Gen and a Tube thingy it will b even more efficient.
i know what i need BUT tha problem is getting them...but i will get there...:) u can count on that!
Peace!
V2DAY
http://www.youtube.com/user/BiDaDiKuNuKu
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Edited by - BiDaDiKuNuKu on 01/07/2009 7:00:53 PM |
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comwarrior
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/07/2009 : 6:43:02 PM
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Bida,
Just looked at your setup... damn nice! it's a shame my wood working skills are not that good... :(
Anyways... once i got over being mortified as to your nice setup my first thaught was that it doesn't apear that your doing anything about lenz's law? unless your hiding that from us... :p
BTW, a simple carboard tube should do the trick...
Hybrid amalgamated system of multiple technologies will be the way forward... that the best from each type of system...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
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My first Bedini Motor ever :)
