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JustAnElectrician
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USA
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 Posted - 06/02/2009 : 6:59:28 PM
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I got the new marine deep-cycle batteries, followed the suggestion from
JB's work to discharge battery to 10V for lead acid before doing a radiant
charge, and I have been plateaued right at 12.12 volts for about 3 days.
Using a relay charger, I checked quickly to see if the spike was up to par
and it was a bit weak, so I sanded the contacts and it recovered to normal
specs. That was over 30 hours ago, and I'm still stuck at 12.12V.
I know a (surface) "Fluff Charge" will falsely inflate the readings,
and for a while I was glad to see the figure did not drop off at all
when I removed the relay (it normally drops alot on most batteries)
so I assumed my true charge rate was equal to the relay's total input.
I'd like your input on this one, I started charging Saturday, around
noon tomorrow it will be a whole week.
Help?!?
...just an Electrician! Since 1985...
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JustAnElectrician
Advanced Member
USA
255 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2009 : 8:45:57 PM
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IMO, it was charging, the radiant was flowing in as fast as the battery would accept it once it got
to around 12V most likely. Sometimes the radiant will charge the electrolyte and show that surface charge,
mbrownn @ Imhotep's helped me out a bit, said that as big as the battery is, it would likely take around
a month or so to charge it with a relay charger!
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JustAnElectrician
Advanced Member
USA
255 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 10:02:51 AM
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AN ANSWER to a relay charger being "too small":
-From the Patrick J. Kelly "Practical Guide to FREE ENERGY DEVICES" e-book.
Available here: http://www.free-energy-info.com/ |
Edited by - JustAnElectrician on 11/02/2009 10:07:38 AM |
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teep
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/02/2009 : 5:03:02 PM
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Sorry I’m still pondering over this one.
Yours theDaftman TEEP forums administrator.
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JustAnElectrician
Advanced Member
USA
255 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 8:58:02 PM
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Glad you are, you are known for thoughtful answers DaftMan!
I am working on some modifications to your batt swapper, to custom fit my needs,
I will run them by you when I get a rounded out plan. I think I can change the
volt sensing to respond to whichever batt is in run mode, by tying that active leg
to where you designate Batt 1 for example... referring to the one you knocked out for Hendo.
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theremart
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Posted - 13/02/2009 : 09:07:07 AM
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1. How many amp hours are these batteries? Some large ones require 2-8 amps to even make a reasonable dent in them.
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teep
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 14/02/2009 : 06:24:59 AM
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Just looking through things and came across this one I setout some time back never built it but would work.
I did an electronic version of it somewhere if anyone’s interested.
Still had moving parts but used reed switchers and transistors to do the switching.
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JustAnElectrician
Advanced Member
USA
255 Posts |
Posted - 14/02/2009 : 11:25:51 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by theremart
1. How many amp hours are these batteries? Some large ones require 2-8 amps to even make a reasonable dent in them.
See my playground here --> www.youtube.com/marthale7
Mart, these are 65 AH according to Interstate, but I have seen no
data on this exact battery, just general data on the group size...
I strongly suspect a Bedini commercial charger (Renaissance Charge)
uses Radiant over Conventional at varying ratios depending on type.
...just an Electrician! Since 1985...
PS: Daftman, I made a post in a related topic @ Imhotep's awhile back that
(or at least the idea has been knocking around in my skull awhile)
I thought I could build a double relay charger where the relays
interrupted one another, great to see that diagram and that it is a
valid idea! I'm strongly trending towards solid state now, the
contacts need too much maintenance.
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teep
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/02/2009 : 2:15:06 PM
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Yep that’s what I’m working on; I’ve got one under test now, if any good results will let you no.
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theremart
Advanced Member
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Posted - 14/02/2009 : 3:30:02 PM
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The radiant charger used about 20 V at 2Amps but it varies from what I am told what it uses. The larger one uses up to 20 Amp. Not a free energy machine but does a good job at reviving batteries from what I am told. It does take several cylces to get batteries back up to where they should be.
Try doing a search on the exact battery id with pdf as the search term in google. This is how I found most of my battery specs.
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JustAnElectrician
Advanced Member
USA
255 Posts |
Posted - 14/02/2009 : 7:50:14 PM
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Thx guys, I think my battery problem is solved.
I used conventional charge to get back around 12.5V and now it's on the relay once again.
I'll try that search Mart!
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Well, Fellow TEEPer's, this was unexpected>
