Hello there, after I have seen the following you tube video on a car alternator modification http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDXM23NDarQ I decided to get one and try. I managed to disassemble the poor beast and all 3 phases are extended. 6 cables all. I hope that I am not the only one interested in this. Please, note that I don't want to prove or discredit the Bedini and/or Newman motor theory. I will except whatever the outcome will be after the experiments. Back to the video above. Anyone can tell me how he connected the alternator? Yes, I asked the video maker, no answer.
Here is a quick video summary on the preparation. Until this it went well.
Any suggestion?
Next step should be to pulse the stator. Which I did, but it was not spinning. I tried from very slow to fast all type of speed, but no chance. I connected the rotor to 6V DC and one set of the stator wires to 12V DC pulsed by the mini fan.
I guess I should start with the Bedini circuit, now. BUT. If I understood well the Bedini motor is based on the magnetic interaction between the bifilar coil/coils and the permanent magnets fixed on the rotor. This should be realized by using the alternator rotor as a permanent magnet and the stator e.g. one of the 3 phases as a coil. This is where I got stuck.
I was thinking on the same terms with regards the bedini motor and a car alternator and i have seen a bedini circuit using an alternator but i am along way from this part of research i am still working with the bedini circuit at beginner level hehe. got it to run with a 2n3055 but it refuses to work with a tip3055 i think its because im using 9v batt. but a car alternator does power the car but the belt from the engine turns it.
It all seems good when one sits and thinks of your idea but you would have to build a Bedini type pulse motor the size of a house to spin a car alternator with a load on it. Sorry to dampen your idea. Just to give you some idea of the power required to run a car alternator, next time you start the car look at the rev counter and switch on your headlights and see the revs drop (slightly) and that’s with a combustion engine running the alternator.
Sorry for being the doom and gloom merchant.
But in principle your spot on but you will need a smaller alternator or a much bigger motor the trick is the balance.
Thank you both for checking out my idea. Let's go through what is known about alternators. This is a normal rotor, which is connected to 6V DC through the brushes.
What I can see is a coil, and metal parts. There's a south and a north pole. Ones it spins up the form of the two metal thing creates the sort of overlapping magnetic field. The video that I have mentioned before talks about PWM. Pulse with modulation on one phase.
Now I found this
It is not in English but you can see the comments. He is talking about RC-brushless-motor-controller, and gave field brushes 7-14 volts dc- power. I have got one, only I still have to get a programming card. So, if this alternator can work as a motor and as an alternator by swithing its modes, it my get overunity at the end? There is no belt on the video.
Hi mate, Did you have any luck with the car alternator ? I have one that I re-wound the stator with thinner 22swg wire but more turns (with the hope of getting same voltage at lower rpm) and placed permanent magnets into the rotor so I didnt need to charge it. My ininitial idea was to turn a flywheel attched to the rotor by magnets and a bedini circuit but this wouldn't produce enough torque. I only did this before I found these forums so i wouldn't have if i had read Daftman's advice not to Anyway........it seems toranarod is using one of the stator coils as one of the bedini coils (which potentially makes sense as it is surrounding the rotor and would produce more torque) but I can not work out the electronics as he doesn't complete his videos to the power transistor.
Am I right in thinking we could do this i.e use one of the stator coils as the bedini circuit coil to power the rotor round and then collect the voltage induced in the other two coils ? Or if we rewound the stator so one of the three windings had a an extra thinner wire to make a bifiliar coil and wire this into the bedini circuit?
Just for refernece my alternator at the moment produces 21v DC unloaded but drops to about 12v at 4A with some 12v car bulbs as a load. I am turning this with an electric drill to test but don't know the rpm as I have no rpm meter.
This isn't very impressive I know but you have start somewhere !!
Any thoughts Comments or info about Toranarod's circuit would be appreciated. I have tried contacting him but no reply as of yet.
Use A car alternator as a Bedini/Newman generator
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