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theremart
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Posted - 06/08/2008 :  11:06:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just about got this wrapped up I hope... still not getting the wave I want, but getting closer.



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theremart
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Posted - 07/10/2008 :  11:35:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have now had some success with my Solid State Bedini. I found that I had on my first try mis wired the 555 timer :( but now that I have redone it, I have a used 12 amp hour battery giving me 13.5 amp hours ( tested with my computer load tester ) Below are the improvements I am seeing in 3 batteries. I am now testing this on some LARGE semi batteries and golf cart batteries, I am not sure if it will have enough power to charge them but I am seeing the voltage rise. Time will tell if they load test better.



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hendo1944
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Australia
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Posted - 08/10/2008 :  03:16:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds like you having some real success....would you be willing to share this information as I would like to give it a go!
My electronic knowledge is very limited, but I am willing to learn and have a go.

I have build a Bedini and also a Newman and both are working well. I am also new to this forum and really enjoy reading all the topics.

I came across a very interesting idea on YouTube...have you seen it?


I would be interested to know more about this!

Thank you for the information...

hendo1944

Edited by - hendo1944 on 08/10/2008 7:43:36 PM
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theremart
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Posted - 09/10/2008 :  5:29:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I am afraid the the schematic that I have I cannot share. It comes from Bedini's book "Free Energy Generation". But that is where I got the schematic.

Yes I did see that video, but I am too scared of microwave coils to get around them :)

But if you watch my videos I do share what I do find with my adventures...

Mart

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hendo1944
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Australia
123 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2008 :  11:17:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Mart...I have the Free Energy Generation (Circuits & Schematics 2nd edition 2006) but it shows no details on a solid state Bedini circuit. There must of been another book....maybe you could give me details of your book, like the ISBN number?
I have studied your videos many times, but I lack the confidence to attempt such a major project, as I am only a novice and wish to get something like this for my caravan, rather than solar.

hendo1944
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Originally posted by theremart

Well, I am afraid the the schematic that I have I cannot share. It comes from Bedini's book "Free Energy Generation". But that is where I got the schematic.

Yes I did see that video, but I am too scared of microwave coils to get around them :)

But if you watch my videos I do share what I do find with my adventures...

Mart

See my playground here --> www.youtube.com/marthale7

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theremart
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Posted - 11/10/2008 :  9:23:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Shoot me an email then if you have the book halemart@hotmail.com. There is a solid state device you will find on page 46 ( notice there is no wheel ). You have the same book I do.

The insert they send corrects some problems, but you must switch pins 4 and 5 on the Opto to get it to work. They have it correctly hooked up on page 47 of the book for the opto.


Imhotep on youtube has just released a VERY simple circuit that does some solid state like charging that uses a relay. I have just built it, and it seems like a winner. Still in the testing stages.

Cheers!





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Lidmotor
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USA
51 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2008 :  10:31:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, I have not posted anything on the forum for awhile because I have been busy on another project. This new Imhotep charger that Mart mentioned works and is so simple that it is almost silly. It is a 12V auto relay, a neon bulb, and a diode. The one that I built today draws less than 30 Milliamps and charges just like a Bedini. Build it in an hour or two. No transistor, no spinning magnets,no coil winding, no tuning, simple soldering,and Radio Shack parts. One drawback is that it is noisy. Sounds like a buzzer. You have to sound proof it some way. It is a great way to see the BEMF phenomenon in a hurry.

Lidmotor

Edited by - Lidmotor on 12/10/2008 10:37:36 PM
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hendo1944
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Australia
123 Posts

Posted - 14/10/2008 :  05:30:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Lidmotor,
Thank you for putting this up....the video certainly looks easy to understand. The schematics are very blurry and I tried to copy them and sharpen them but with not much luck.
Could I impose on you to maybe place a clear schematic showing the pin numbers and and diode (1N4007), neon (only have 90v one) please. I would like to try it and will tomorrow try and buy a Bosh relay as suggested.
Thank you in anticipation, look forward to building this, as I have very little knowledge of electronics.
Regards,
hendo1944
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Originally posted by Lidmotor

Hi, I have not posted anything on the forum for awhile because I have been busy on another project. This new Imhotep charger that Mart mentioned works and is so simple that it is almost silly. It is a 12V auto relay, a neon bulb, and a diode. The one that I built today draws less than 30 Milliamps and charges just like a Bedini. Build it in an hour or two. No transistor, no spinning magnets,no coil winding, no tuning, simple soldering,and Radio Shack parts. One drawback is that it is noisy. Sounds like a buzzer. You have to sound proof it some way. It is a great way to see the BEMF phenomenon in a hurry.

Lidmotor

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theremart
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154 Posts

Posted - 14/10/2008 :  4:47:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a pic



I as well need help with this Lid, I did have mine going but I must of did something wrong, I would like to compare notes, I am not sure where the wires go. I would like to copy what you have done.

Thanks!

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Lidmotor
Junior Member



USA
51 Posts

Posted - 15/10/2008 :  10:42:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
Here a video of my Imhotep Relay Charger replication. This should answer some of your questions.

Lidmotor

Edited by - Lidmotor on 15/10/2008 10:44:11 AM
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theremart
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Posted - 15/10/2008 :  5:48:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1. Purchase a 275-0001 automotive relay from Radio Shack, an neon, a diode ( I used 4007 )


Steps to build Imhotep relay charger.
1. Gently pry off the case helps to work one side then the other to get the catches loose.
2. Scratch the surface as point out in the video then solder the wire to the now scratched surface. Then notch the case this will allow room for the wire to come out. Close up the case.
3. The wire you just added goes to primary negative of the source battery.
4. Connect the neon one side to connector 85 the other to 86.
5. Connect connector 30 of the relay to connector 85
6. Connect the Diode to Connector 85 this goes to Charge pos
7. Connect a wire to 86 goes to charge -
8. Bridge your batteries with a wire from charge - to Primary +

PREPARE FOR NOISE :)

Wrapping this unit up in a towel does help preserve sanity. ;)





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Edited by - theremart on 16/10/2008 12:15:58 PM
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theremart
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Posted - 20/12/2008 :  10:27:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Load test of 2 golf cart batteries charged with Solid State Bedini.

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hendo1944
Senior Member



Australia
123 Posts

Posted - 21/12/2008 :  04:20:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Mart,

Very very impressed with your solid state setup....you seem to be doing where I want to go, but are way ahead of me. I am still trying to get my battery swapper to work and think I have found the problem....will know in the next few days. Thanks for all your help with this by the way.
I have been busy these last few days doing some contract work, but will be hard at it soon. I am also going to build a Bedini Fan motor and if that works well, as your video shows, will be converting a larger DC magnet motor to become a Bedini generator.
If this works and I can't see why not, will be putting a video on YouTube and share the outputs. Those Bedini Fan motors (Imhotep) are very interesting. I figure a motor with heavier coils will produce a greater voltage as well as current for fast charging.

Hendo1944
View some of my projects at; http://au.youtube.com/hendojohn
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theremart
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154 Posts

Posted - 21/12/2008 :  04:43:57 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Hendo,

The fun part when you go larger is the size of the spikes can eat a lot of electrical equipment fast. The fan was a fun project but that fine soldering was a killer :)

I am not that far ahead of you as you have far more skill than I on building quality projects. But I do like the way that we can all work as a team here sharing what we know and helping others to advance along the way.

Mart

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JustAnElectrician
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USA
257 Posts

Posted - 21/12/2008 :  8:38:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hendo1944
I have studied your videos many times, but I lack the confidence to attempt such a major project, as I am only a novice


Your skills are quite good, go for it John!
But for sure, get the tech data FIRST. It's
the only smart way to proceed.

...just an Electrician! Since 1985...
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hendo1944
Senior Member



Australia
123 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2009 :  03:09:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Came across a very interesting article about solid state generators:
http://www.weareonline.com.au/freeenergy/index.php?page=11
I am sure you will find this very interesting just as I did.
Would be nice to build something like that....maybe soon!

Hendo1944
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theremart
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154 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2009 :  8:37:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for sharing that hendo, looked too complicated for me :)

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hendo1944
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Australia
123 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2009 :  04:46:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is interesting reading....I agree it is complicated, but who knows down the track a bit....? Ideas start somewhere!
I like your solid state system and you mentioned in the movie you got the idea from the energetic forum? Also noticed you use other coils (air coils) and by the looks of things you have a circuit for each one. I certainly would like to know more about this charger and look forward to see your final results with the inverter/crockpot test.
As you know, I have build the Bedini solid state charger and was rather disappointed with the output...so maybe your system is a solution for me. Can you share with me and maybe others where we can obtain the schematics?

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Originally posted by theremart

Thanks for sharing that hendo, looked too complicated for me :)

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Hendo1944
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theremart
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154 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2009 :  08:52:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I am very impressed with the results, I am now putting the finishing touches on the setup, I have ordered 1000 feet of 18 gauge speaker wire. I have found using speaker wire has allowed my transistors to stay much cooler than if I use magnet wire. Yes I will share the schematic, you will not believe how simple this one is. This is the circuit I have been looking for as it is simple, and man does it ever work. You need heafty resistors like 25W.

I am still learning the best way to set this up...

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theremart
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154 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2009 :  09:00:45 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


This circuit belongs to Jetijs from energetic forum ( Sub board Solid State ), he has been a real dynamo of ideas that work. His batteries have greatly improved using this, I have not put as many amps in as he has to his circuit, but soon I may...



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Edited by - theremart on 03/01/2009 09:13:21 AM
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hendo1944
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Australia
123 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  4:44:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you theremart....I have been reading Jetijs with interest on the Energetic forum site....he does some great work and he likes to share his ideas, which is also great to see.
When you get some figures done, using your crockpot, please list them on TEEP....I will give it a try in the near future.

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Originally posted by theremart



This circuit belongs to Jetijs from energetic forum ( Sub board Solid State ), he has been a real dynamo of ideas that work. His batteries have greatly improved using this, I have not put as many amps in as he has to his circuit, but soon I may...



See my playground here --> www.youtube.com/marthale7



Hendo1944
View some of my projects at: http://au.youtube.com/hendojohn

Edited by - hendo1944 on 04/01/2009 4:45:43 PM
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theremart
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154 Posts

Posted - 25/01/2009 :  07:06:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been improving my Jetjis SS Bedini.

Well instead of having just one laptop power supply powering my charger I went to a second one splitting my 10 transistors in to two sets of 5. I then simply put both outputs to the charging battery. I am using two laptop power supplies for the primary power one at 20V 2.5 amps and the other at 20V 3 amps. I am very impressed with the results this is the fastest charge to date of my golf cart batteries. The two 6 volt golf cart batteries were both fully charged in 1.46 days. This sure beats the old 5 day method I used to use.




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theremart
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Posted - 02/03/2009 :  8:56:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Net gain went from 63 amp hours to 77 amp hours after 7 cycles. In this chart is both the charge and the load test of 11 amps to two golf cart batteries. Input was two laptop power supplies at 20V 3amp and 20V 2 amp. Very happy with results.

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theremart
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Posted - 15/03/2009 :  3:59:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Latest results from the Jetijs setup..

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