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hendo1944
Senior Member
Australia
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 Posted - 07/09/2009 : 9:47:52 PM
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I have been reading and trying different things for a while now and I think I am getting closer.
I have purchased from Wind Blue a low rpm generator that uses N40 neo magnets and has had the coils redone. The model is a 540 and I have hooked this up to a 12v DC motor that is speed controlled. The reason for the speed control is that at 1450 rpm it created to much heat and it served no purpose. The unit spins at around 100 rpm and outputs consistently 8 amp.
I have this hooked to a large capacitor and the AC it generates is converted to DC with a heavy duty rectifier from Wind Blue. I am still testing this under load and will be testing it further with a larger inverter in the near future.
I have put a small movie together for anyone interested and will be putting information on these pages in time.
http://s459.photobucket.com/albums/qq313/hendo1944/?action=view¤t=My_generator.flv
The link to Wind Blue is: http://www.windbluepower.com/Permanent_Magnet_Alternator_Wind_Blue_Low_Wind_p/dc-540.htm
I hope you are interested in my project, as I feel that this is one way of getting some charge with no noise and little costs.
My thanks goes out to Mart for giving me details about Wind Blue.
Hendo1944
View some of my projects at: http://au.youtube.com/hendojohn
"When you're one step ahead of the crowd you're a genius.
When you're two steps ahead, you're a crackpot."
-- Rabbi Shlomo Riskin (Feb. 1998)
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teep
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/09/2009 : 02:54:17 AM
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Nice work again Hendo. The only thing I can see that may improve your set up is a flywheel.
Yours theDaftman TEEP forums administrator.
See my videos on YouTube.
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hendo1944
Senior Member
Australia
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Posted - 08/09/2009 : 04:39:21 AM
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Thank you Daftman...coming from you means a lot.
I have tried a flywheel of 10kg and found it made no difference as this alternator with the very strong magnets will not spin freely.
I also found that when I had a flywheel attached I ended with heat problems in the the electric motor and the control box. Since eliminating the flywheel the heating problems are gone. As mentioned before, the unit only needs to do around 100 to 150rpm as any more will cause the heating problems again.
The solar controller seems to be doing the job and more testing is needed by me to be happy with this.
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Originally posted by teep
Nice work again Hendo. The only thing I can see that may improve your set up is a flywheel.
Yours theDaftman TEEP forums administrator.
See my videos on YouTube.
http://uk.youtube.com/theDaftman
Hendo1944
View some of my projects at: http://au.youtube.com/hendojohn
"When you're one step ahead of the crowd you're a genius.
When you're two steps ahead, you're a crackpot."
-- Rabbi Shlomo Riskin (Feb. 1998)
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theremart
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Posted - 08/09/2009 : 05:08:32 AM
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Originally posted by teep
Nice work again Hendo. The only thing I can see that may improve your set up is a flywheel.
Yours theDaftman TEEP forums administrator.
See my videos on YouTube.
http://uk.youtube.com/theDaftman
This reminds me in a sense of John Bedini's early Free energy Generation book. I think one could have machined a flywheel that would replace the coupling that you are using to connect the two motors. Very encouraging results!
See my playground here --> www.youtube.com/marthale7 |
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hendo1944
Senior Member
Australia
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Posted - 08/09/2009 : 6:15:00 PM
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The flywheel was my original thought as well and after making one on my lathe, I discovered that it caused the 12v DC motor and the speed regulator to get very hot after 30 minutes of use.
The above is a picture of the flywheel and it weighs 15kg. After this disappointment I decided to purchase a flexible coupling that had a neoprene star in it and machined it to suit the two different shaft sizes.
I also have specs on the alternator for those interested:
I am looking forward to do more testing soon.
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Originally posted by theremart
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Originally posted by teep
Nice work again Hendo. The only thing I can see that may improve your set up is a flywheel.
Yours theDaftman TEEP forums administrator.
See my videos on YouTube.
http://uk.youtube.com/theDaftman
This reminds me in a sense of John Bedini's early Free energy Generation book. I think one could have machined a flywheel that would replace the coupling that you are using to connect the two motors. Very encouraging results!
See my playground here --> www.youtube.com/marthale7
Hendo1944
View some of my projects at: http://au.youtube.com/hendojohn
"When you're one step ahead of the crowd you're a genius.
When you're two steps ahead, you're a crackpot."
-- Rabbi Shlomo Riskin (Feb. 1998)
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/09/2009 : 07:00:10 AM
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hi hendo...
My PC goes down for a day and when i sort it out someone beats me to putting the first post... grrrr! lol
Anyways, this remindes me of an experiment that i did as a kid with a 3 volt and 6 volt motors when i was a kid... use the 3 volt to run the 6 volt and then feed the output from the 6 volt back to the 3 volt...
You have a fair bit of complexity, and to be honest, i think your loosing power...
So, if i did an overhaul on your system, how would i do it...
remove inverter from the equation...
Remove solar regulator from equation...
Remove capacitors from generator feed...
Here is how i'd connect it...
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Battery into motor controler
motor controler into motor
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Generator into rectifier
Rectifier into battery
Please if possible find 3 cheep Digital MultiMeters (DMM)...
1) One measures battery voltage...
2) One measures DC curent draw into motot controler...
3) One measures DC generator flow...
Now, phisics says that DMM 2 (load curent) will read higher than DMM3...
If this doesn't happen then you have immediatly proven your setup is overunity...
now, to truely prove this, you use a 16AH lead acid (something nice and small) as you battery and put your inverter on that battery... it'd be nice to have a 4th DMM to show curent flowing to the inverter...
Make a full 10 min video and with the battery at a stable voltage with the inverter + load connected for the full 10 mins...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
Edited by - comwarrior on 09/09/2009 07:01:20 AM |
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
477 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2009 : 07:07:06 AM
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PS, that fly wheel is too big and heavy...
Yuo need a flywheel that has a bigger diameter with all the waight on the outside of the wheel...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
477 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2009 : 07:17:18 AM
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Bafor people rush out to buy one of these generators... I've spotted a problem...
quote:
The chart below represents actual output on a test stand.
Voltage readings were recorded with the circuit open (No Load) while Amperage was recorded with the output shorted (Max Load).
Your system setup will determine what output you will see in the “real world”.
I hate it when people and companies record generator out like this because its SO SO SOOOOO WRONG!
Do not go by that graph for RPM V power out...
I couldn't even guess at how to interpret that graph... apart from faster is better...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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hendo1944
Senior Member
Australia
123 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2009 : 11:04:23 PM
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Hi Comwarrior,
Sorry about posting before you....didn't know you were down.
I appreciate your feedback and as I know that I am still losing power, will try your theory. You have obviously done something like this a long time ago.
Many thanks again....
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Originally posted by comwarrior
hi hendo...
My PC goes down for a day and when i sort it out someone beats me to putting the first post... grrrr! lol
Anyways, this remindes me of an experiment that i did as a kid with a 3 volt and 6 volt motors when i was a kid... use the 3 volt to run the 6 volt and then feed the output from the 6 volt back to the 3 volt...
You have a fair bit of complexity, and to be honest, i think your loosing power...
So, if i did an overhaul on your system, how would i do it...
remove inverter from the equation...
Remove solar regulator from equation...
Remove capacitors from generator feed...
Here is how i'd connect it...
1)
Battery into motor controler
motor controler into motor
2)
Generator into rectifier
Rectifier into battery
Please if possible find 3 cheep Digital MultiMeters (DMM)...
1) One measures battery voltage...
2) One measures DC curent draw into motot controler...
3) One measures DC generator flow...
Now, phisics says that DMM 2 (load curent) will read higher than DMM3...
If this doesn't happen then you have immediatly proven your setup is overunity...
now, to truely prove this, you use a 16AH lead acid (something nice and small) as you battery and put your inverter on that battery... it'd be nice to have a 4th DMM to show curent flowing to the inverter...
Make a full 10 min video and with the battery at a stable voltage with the inverter + load connected for the full 10 mins...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69
Hendo1944
View some of my projects at: http://au.youtube.com/hendojohn
"When you're one step ahead of the crowd you're a genius.
When you're two steps ahead, you're a crackpot."
-- Rabbi Shlomo Riskin (Feb. 1998)
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/09/2009 : 05:05:39 AM
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Don't worrie about posting b4 me... i was kidding... I'm just surprised someone beet me to it...
am i right in thinking your running two what looks like 5 foot strip lights via an inverter and your still loosing power?
Run it without the inverter and hopefully the battery will charge...
I'm going to do you a circuit for an 'overflow' relay... In otherwords, if the battery goes over say 13.5 volts then the relay energises and allows a 12v device to be switched on to dump the excess...
This will mean the pri battery will not go flat...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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hendo1944
Senior Member
Australia
123 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2009 : 06:03:50 AM
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Thank you for your comments and your special relay plan....look forward to try it.
Tell me.....have build any free running motors....in other words the back emf is running a small motor.
I have been trying many different systems and although I am close, it still stops and runs the battery down after a week or so.
Thanks again...
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Originally posted by comwarrior
Don't worrie about posting b4 me... i was kidding... I'm just surprised someone beet me to it...
am i right in thinking your running two what looks like 5 foot strip lights via an inverter and your still loosing power?
Run it without the inverter and hopefully the battery will charge...
I'm going to do you a circuit for an 'overflow' relay... In otherwords, if the battery goes over say 13.5 volts then the relay energises and allows a 12v device to be switched on to dump the excess...
This will mean the pri battery will not go flat...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69
Hendo1944
View some of my projects at: http://au.youtube.com/hendojohn
"When you're one step ahead of the crowd you're a genius.
When you're two steps ahead, you're a crackpot."
-- Rabbi Shlomo Riskin (Feb. 1998)
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
477 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2009 : 11:28:34 AM
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Hendo,
Here is the simple circuit, i will explain it's operation...
ok, it's quite simple, i've use a pot as input to an NPN transister...
Their is NOTHING special about this transister, it's only needed to energise your relay...
Collector of transister goes to battery... Emitter to relay...
Adjust the pot so that the relay comes on at 13 volts and switches off if it drops below 12.5...
Atach the inverter to one of the relay contacts so that it'll switch on the load when the battery is atleast 13volts but if too much is pulled from the battery and the voltage drops too low the relay will disengage cutting load and preventing the generator from stalling...
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you can set it lower than 12.5 volts but be aware that the relay will disengage at a lower voltage that it engages at...
Be awaree, if you have a 100 watt load on 110volts you inverter will be pulling ~10 amps at 12 volts... so, use automovive relays (car relays) as these are usually rated above 10 amps on the contacts...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
Edited by - comwarrior on 11/09/2009 11:35:05 AM |
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hendo1944
Senior Member
Australia
123 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2009 : 4:34:51 PM
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Thank you for your information.....I will study this when I get some free time in the next few weeks. As I am not that familiar with reading circuits, I hope you don't mind if I ask some questions at a later stage, when I will try this.
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Originally posted by comwarrior
Hendo,
Here is the simple circuit, i will explain it's operation...
ok, it's quite simple, i've use a pot as input to an NPN transister...
Their is NOTHING special about this transister, it's only needed to energise your relay...
Collector of transister goes to battery... Emitter to relay...
Adjust the pot so that the relay comes on at 13 volts and switches off if it drops below 12.5...
Atach the inverter to one of the relay contacts so that it'll switch on the load when the battery is atleast 13volts but if too much is pulled from the battery and the voltage drops too low the relay will disengage cutting load and preventing the generator from stalling...
:edit
you can set it lower than 12.5 volts but be aware that the relay will disengage at a lower voltage that it engages at...
Be awaree, if you have a 100 watt load on 110volts you inverter will be pulling ~10 amps at 12 volts... so, use automovive relays (car relays) as these are usually rated above 10 amps on the contacts...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69
Hendo1944
View some of my projects at: http://au.youtube.com/hendojohn
"When you're one step ahead of the crowd you're a genius.
When you're two steps ahead, you're a crackpot."
-- Rabbi Shlomo Riskin (Feb. 1998)
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
477 Posts |
Posted - 13/09/2009 : 6:22:26 PM
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Questions.. NP...
I could make you a little box that will do it for you and send it to you...
Not sure of the cost, but i doubt it would be much...
:edit
Just because 'someone' has tried it befor you doesn't mean you won't find something the other people have missed...
So, don't be disheartened... 
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Generator Systems Moderator
"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
"Every Action has an equal and opposite re-action" - Why not use the re-action to create an additional action?
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
Edited by - comwarrior on 13/09/2009 6:26:50 PM |
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hendo1944
Senior Member
Australia
123 Posts |
Posted - 14/09/2009 : 04:32:41 AM
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Thank you for your kind offer...can you contact me through my email address, so we can discuss this further.
This project is of great importance to me and if it can put the energy that it takes from the battery to run it, back into the battery, plus a little extra and run a 1500 watt inverter, I would be extremely happy, as I would be able to free camp in our beautiful national parks, as power generators are not allowed in our National parks. I based this idea on the Deckers version of the Bedini/Wilson/Tilley Hybrid, except I don't use a flywheel, as I found that it makes no difference. If I try to make the 12v motor rev more I get a heat problem in both the controller and the 12v drive motor. I found that if I keep the load output to 7 to 8 amp no heat problem, so figured that the amperage is the working range I can play with.
These last few days I have been doing some part time work and it will take a few weeks to clear the back log. After that I will be able to devote more time to my projects.
As I am retired, I look forward to find any part time work, which helps to supplement my limited income and finance some of my projects.
I have also been playing with another project, which you may have some comments on and as many others around the world got taken in by the Mylow project, I too spend considerable time trying to make a free spinning device. I have been converting the Mylow system with a bifiliar coil and it is spinning the disk at around 200 rpm. The back emf I am converting through a bridge rectifier and putting the power back into the battery driving the disk. I have placed an in4007 diode on the positive terminal from the bemf side, so the power won't go back to the coil. The battery I am using is a small 7ah alarm 12v battery and as I have played with this battery many times using bemf, may have damaged the cells slightly ( Bedini talks about this) and find that the power drops to about 4.5v, but the disk keeps spinning. It has run like this for weeks and seems to increase in voltage during the nights, but decreases during the day. Every day I wake up and check it first, but to my surprise it is still spinning.
The large 18" aluminium disk has quite a bit of torque and I recently got a small generator, which I tried to use. The output was less than the bemf was and it could not sustain in keeping the unit as a self runner, which is my ultimate aim.
As you have heaps more experience than me, I would like to learn more about making a self running unit.
Thank you again for your interest and I look forward to hear from you soon.
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Originally posted by comwarrior
Questions.. NP...
I could make you a little box that will do it for you and send it to you...
Not sure of the cost, but i doubt it would be much...
:edit
Just because 'someone' has tried it befor you doesn't mean you won't find something the other people have missed...
So, don't be disheartened...
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Generator Systems Moderator
"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
"Every Action has an equal and opposite re-action" - Why not use the re-action to create an additional action?
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69
Hendo1944
View some of my projects at: http://au.youtube.com/hendojohn
"When you're one step ahead of the crowd you're a genius.
When you're two steps ahead, you're a crackpot."
-- Rabbi Shlomo Riskin (Feb. 1998)
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/09/2009 : 9:06:13 PM
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i like the way you say a little extra to run a 1500W inverter... 'just' a little bit of power to run one of those...
I've been thinking lots about if i get my generator to work and be overunity... how then to deliver the 'free' energy... I have an 12V to 240V inverter circuit, so yes i could very esily just build one and hook it up to any mains devices...
However i then go into thinking about lights, and how they are 'dumb devices' and i realised they don't need a true 50Hz sine wave... so then i got thinking could i save power if i created my own way of powering a bulb... and the answer is i'd love to try!
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Generator Systems Moderator
"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
"Every Action has an equal and opposite re-action" - Why not use the re-action to create an additional action?
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
477 Posts |
Posted - 17/09/2009 : 8:06:28 PM
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hendo, I sent you an email 3-4 days ago, not had a responce...
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Generator Systems Moderator
"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
"Every Action has an equal and opposite re-action" - Why not use the re-action to create an additional action?
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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rebato
Starting Member
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Posted - 19/09/2009 : 6:15:46 PM
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I just saw your video Hendo on your generator project. looks very promising. do you have a schematic for this? Have you considered doing this the rotoverter route? looking forward to more success.
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
477 Posts |
Posted - 19/09/2009 : 7:56:34 PM
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Hendo,
I just thaught...
You do realise that a 1500W inverter at full load is going to be drawing 125 AMPS (@ 100% efficiency) from a 12 volts source?
A 100watt standard filament bulb will draw 8.3 amps...
Simple formula to work it out...
Amp draw = (Output Volts X Output Amps) / 12
OR
Amp draw = Output Watts / 12
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Generator Systems Moderator
"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
"Every Action has an equal and opposite re-action" - Why not use the re-action to create an additional action?
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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hendo1944
Senior Member
Australia
123 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2009 : 04:17:44 AM
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I responded to your hotmail account on the 15/09/2009...will resend again now.
Thanks for letting me know that you didn't receive it...I was wondering what went wrong.
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Originally posted by comwarrior
hendo, I sent you an email 3-4 days ago, not had a responce...
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Generator Systems Moderator
"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
"Every Action has an equal and opposite re-action" - Why not use the re-action to create an additional action?
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69
Hendo1944
View some of my projects at: http://au.youtube.com/hendojohn
"When you're one step ahead of the crowd you're a genius.
When you're two steps ahead, you're a crackpot."
-- Rabbi Shlomo Riskin (Feb. 1998)
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hendo1944
Senior Member
Australia
123 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2009 : 04:37:53 AM
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Thank you for your interest David.....I got the idea from:
http://keelynet.com/tilley/tillmanta.htm
I changed it quite a bit, as I wasn't going to spend that much on a Manta generator. I also found that even with a small 5lb flywheel it made no difference in the charge mode. I now have a flexi coupling between motor and generator and find it is smoother and doesn't overheat. I also found that if the battery is say 80% full it seems to take ages to have additional charge going into it.
At first I was excited but after trying to run a 200watt light source, it became obvious that the battery was draining over an extended time. Not having any drain on the battery at all, kept the unit running and that battery full.....so I think I need to look at this project from a different view point. Trying to have a 1500watt inverter is not possible the way the system is at present and I am now thinking of using 2 - 100AH deep cycle batteries and use the system to keep them charged with my battery swapper kicking in when one battery drops below a certain voltage. This way I may keep the batteries full.
Hope all this makes sense.
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Originally posted by rebato
I just saw your video Hendo on your generator project. looks very promising. do you have a schematic for this? Have you considered doing this the rotoverter route? looking forward to more success.
David Towery
Hendo1944
View some of my projects at: http://au.youtube.com/hendojohn
"When you're one step ahead of the crowd you're a genius.
When you're two steps ahead, you're a crackpot."
-- Rabbi Shlomo Riskin (Feb. 1998)
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comwarrior
Moderator
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477 Posts |
Posted - 20/09/2009 : 5:31:09 PM
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hendo, you got mail... lol
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Generator Systems Moderator
"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
"Every Action has an equal and opposite re-action" - Why not use the re-action to create an additional action?
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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Joolz
Starting Member
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Posted - 24/09/2009 : 11:25:25 AM
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Hi Hendo,
I was thinking of buying one of these wind blue generators as you have as they seem to give a good output at low revs and I'm glad I've finally found someone who is thinking along the same lines.
My origonal idea was to mount a Newman type motor setup to the shaft of the DC-540 and run it with dual batteries as you see in many of these experiments so one runs and the other charges. (then use daftman's auto battery swapper circuit)
Having never built a newman motor yet do you think one would generate enough torque to turn the DC-540 under load ? They claim they are zero cogging and I'm under the impression they turn quite freely.
What do you think about connecting the output of the DC-540 to a grid tie inverter so suppliment household usage ? I'm not talking getting a zero offset from the grid but surley if the windblue is going 24/7 and outputs quite a few amps then it would make some difference.
Hope to hear your thoughts
Cheers
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
477 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2009 : 11:45:27 AM
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I've found a lot of modern car alternators do not cog...
The problem is the bearings/bushes... They will generate friction...
In my opinion...
What would be interesting is if you replaced the bearings in one of these units with non greased bearing races... and possibly softer springs in the comutater brushes...
Could it be driven by ether a newman or pulse motor?
Well, you'd need a drive system that has enough torque to over come the resistancies...
So where would i put my money?
If your bedini or newman draws less than 12 watts then i'm going to say definatly no...
Above 12watts is anyones guess...
If i had to give a guide... i'd say to aim for the generator producing 10% more than what it takes to drive it...
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Generator Systems Moderator
"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
"Every Action has an equal and opposite re-action" - Why not use the re-action to create an additional action?
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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BiDaDiKuNuKu
Advanced Member
Netherlands
333 Posts |
Posted - 29/09/2009 : 11:56:13 AM
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@ hendo1944
nice setup u got there...i does remind me abit of the Chas Campbell setup...:)
about the pic with ur flywheel...to see how a flywheel must be i advice u to look for steam engines on U-tube, google an so on.
u will see that the other ring is always heavier than the inner ring.
most of them have 4/6 spokes with a massive other ring.
with this setup u do gain alot of momentum...hope this is of some help... ...or check a car flywheel if yah have 1 laying around...
Peace!
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Edited by - BiDaDiKuNuKu on 29/09/2009 12:01:15 PM |
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wirenut
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Posted - 17/11/2009 : 05:03:54 AM
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Originally posted by Joolz
Hi Hendo,
I was thinking of buying one of these wind blue generators as you have as they seem to give a good output at low revs and I'm glad I've finally found someone who is thinking along the same lines.
My origonal idea was to mount a Newman type motor setup to the shaft of the DC-540 and run it with dual batteries as you see in many of these experiments so one runs and the other charges. (then use daftman's auto battery swapper circuit)
Having never built a newman motor yet do you think one would generate enough torque to turn the DC-540 under load ? They claim they are zero cogging and I'm under the impression they turn quite freely.
What do you think about connecting the output of the DC-540 to a grid tie inverter so suppliment household usage ? I'm not talking getting a zero offset from the grid but surley if the windblue is going 24/7 and outputs quite a few amps then it would make some difference.
Hope to hear your thoughts
Cheers
Joolz
Hi Joolz, Hello Hendo,
I have tried to run a 63 amp car alternator using a windor motor with a very simple commutator system, My input voltage was between 50 volts dc and 95 volts dc, via a bench top power supply, the motor was drawing roughly 1.5 amps as it tried to bring the alternator up to speed, I was able to drive the alternator upto to 2800 rpms hoping to get it to "cut in" and start charging the two 100ah batteries, but I never saw the output voltage of the alternator go above 12.4 volts.
The alternator sits relativly close to the motor, the large 5lb fly wheel is used to turn the alternator, maening I have a 2 inch rubber wheel in place where the alternator puley would go, and it rides the side of the flywheel, it turns realativly free, however I just cant get the alternator to put out the voltage higher than 12, when I know in a car it reads 14.5 volts
So after that long explanation, My question is this, would the radiant magnetic field being produced by the Newman motor, interfear with the internal magnetic field of the alternator, causing it to not charge correctly? is it too close to the motor?
and for Heno, what was the size of the DC motor your using, relative to tourqe? Any feedback would be appreciated, thank you all |
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