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Fabonheur
New Member
USA
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 Posted - 28/08/2009 : 4:15:22 PM
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I just came across a few videos yesterday on youtube with above title which was told to remove them. Has any of teeps watched them? Now there is just one video left without any information.
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oldHermit
Starting Member
USA
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oldHermit
Starting Member
USA
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oldHermit
Starting Member
USA
16 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2009 : 7:10:35 PM
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Just a quick question, Daftman...
What's the difference between this machine and one the FE community would consider a perpetual motion machine, if both would (by some miracle) would run till the parts started wearing out?
When reading the various energy forums, where people say something isn't really OU because it depends on being attached in some way to something else, I just gotta wonder...
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teep
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
347 Posts |
Posted - 29/08/2009 : 03:43:21 AM
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I believe if I remember correctly this was a spoof.
But some good theory behind some of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rySqz7Hgpkk
The thing for me in the above video link is:
See the ball roll on the table it rolls away quickly, normal yes.
Now for this experiment to work correctly the table would have to be level almost perfectly.
Watch the ball very carefully you will see the ball accelerate across the table then just before he catchers the ball it’s started to roll back from the direction from witch it came.
Ok it could be a bad table that’s got a bowed top or an electromagnet field generator under the top of the table.
Perpetual
Criteria for part 1 for me is:
1. Continuing or enduring forever; everlasting.
2. Lasting an indefinitely long time: perpetual snow.
3. Continuing or continued without intermission or interruption; ceaseless: a perpetual stream of visitors all day.
Motion
Criteria for part 2 for me is:
1. The action or process of moving or of changing place or position; movement.
2. Machinery.
a. A piece of mechanism with a particular action or function.
b. The action of such a mechanism.
Yours theDaftman TEEP forums administrator.
See my videos on YouTube.
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
477 Posts |
Posted - 29/08/2009 : 07:21:54 AM
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and the guy that did them doesn't actually realise just how much he was on the correct line...
What he has done in the second and third video is very close to what i'm doing... except... my gen coils will outnumber my drive coils by something like 12 to 1...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
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Topher
Starting Member
Costa Rica
19 Posts |
Posted - 31/08/2009 : 2:08:49 PM
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Can you all explain to me what this video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=rySqz7Hgpkk is showing and what modifications you would make to have it work. Is this feasible for small scale energy production? Thank you,
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oldHermit
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 31/08/2009 : 2:38:25 PM
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Originally posted by Topher
Can you all explain to me what this video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=rySqz7Hgpkk is showing and what modifications you would make to have it work. Is this feasible for small scale energy production? Thank you,
Topher
You might want to check out http://www.(forum promotion not allowed).com/renewable-energy/4026-one-magnet-no-bearing-bedini-motor.html (where the thing says forum promotion not allowed, it's energetic forum, no space between energetic and forum) . They've pretty much covered and developed a lot on that motor. Save you some time.
HTH
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Fabonheur
New Member
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 31/08/2009 : 4:16:52 PM
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| Hi TEEPS. Is it worth replicating this topic? |
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oldHermit
Starting Member
USA
16 Posts |
Posted - 31/08/2009 : 4:40:20 PM
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Kind of depends on what you're expecting from it, I think. If you want to learn, and develop it into something better, probably since it's a cheap experiment. If you're expecting to run your house off the results, not so much at this time.
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 31/08/2009 : 5:32:29 PM
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i can see the similarities to my setup... to be honest, i think you'd still have problems with lenz.... so i'd say no
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
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Fabonheur
New Member
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 01/09/2009 : 04:32:35 AM
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How do you think we can improve the setup? Any viable thoughts? quote:
Originally posted by comwarrior
i can see the similarities to my setup... to be honest, i think you'd still have problems with lenz.... so i'd say no
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/09/2009 : 1:33:03 PM
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that setup would be fine if you could find away around the negative effect of lenz...
Unfortunatly, I can't see a way...
having said that... if you went completely nuts with the coils, and then used a PWM controler to limit what your pulling from each coil you might get a reduction in negitive lenz...
Even so, i still highly doubt you'll get any decent efficiency out of it...
Having said that... i do have a theory...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
477 Posts |
Posted - 02/09/2009 : 11:21:13 AM
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Actually, i do have a design you can try... one that has a positive lenz effect (speeds up under load)
The only thing is... it's not for beginners...
you'll need to balence power used verses power generated...
You'll have to guess what size wire for the gen coils...
However, it does have the potential to be self sustaining provided your carefull...
Let me know if you want me to draw you some plans
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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Fabonheur
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USA
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Fabonheur
New Member
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 03/09/2009 : 4:10:57 PM
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Ok give it a go.quote:
Originally posted by comwarrior
Actually, i do have a design you can try... one that has a positive lenz effect (speeds up under load)
The only thing is... it's not for beginners...
you'll need to balence power used verses power generated...
You'll have to guess what size wire for the gen coils...
However, it does have the potential to be self sustaining provided your carefull...
Let me know if you want me to draw you some plans
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
477 Posts |
Posted - 03/09/2009 : 4:33:15 PM
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cool, i'll start drawing it up now...
I think you'll like it... ;)
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
477 Posts |
Posted - 03/09/2009 : 6:26:59 PM
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Right, This is the colmanation of several hundred hours of experimenting and theory...
I call this Comwarrios USO generator... (Unidentified Spinning Object)
This is an adaptation of Dan Quale's lenzless generator, you can find his page here...
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DQuale&view=videos
http://www.overunitybuilder.com/lenzlessquale.html
So, the initial credit goes to DQUALE...
here are the basic plans...
Top Down View
Side View
Key
Right, so, the gen coils and gen magnets are fited to STATIC rings... STATIC ie they do NOT spin...
What does spin is the 'stator' in the middle...
On this stator is two pairs of interference rings... These rings have fingers on that interfere with the magnetic field from the magnets and prevent the flux from flowing into the gen coils...
Because that both north fields from the gen magnets are pointed into the coil and the fact your using interference methods the lenz effect is reversed thus causing the device to speed up under load...
my curent 'guestimate' on the gen coils is that you sould use 1000 - 1500 turns of 19 SWG wire on the gencoils combined with Voltage Doubling Rectifiers... All coils on one side are wired so that the VDR's are in series to increase the voltage... However, you may find you can split each side into two...
The gen coils need to produce atleast 24 volts at no load in order to get curent to flow onto the 12 volt drive rail...
Optimal gen coil loading should be between 50-75% of their maximum 'shorted' curent...
Minimum rotational speed is 600 RPM, Faster than that will cause the gen coils to produce a higher voltage which is good!!!
Their will be 1000+ questions about this... I'm still doing experiments on the generator coils, i will building something similar this weekend...
I have gone overboard with the gen coils in the diagram, but more is better...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
Edited by - comwarrior on 03/09/2009 6:40:01 PM |
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
477 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2009 : 05:45:15 AM
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Had an inspiration last night...
You can double stack the generator rings and get more speed by using both sides of the drive coil...
Thus allowing you to double the amount generated without dragging things down...
Additionally, if this was mounted on a central shaft, you could quite easily add together more double stacks...
This generator can be 'driven' with a standard bedini circuit...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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Fabonheur
New Member
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2009 : 06:20:46 AM
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| Thanks. You made me study more and research on the Lenzless ideas as a project. |
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
477 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2009 : 5:38:49 PM
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Announcing my latest gen coil results...
two standard real coils wound with 1500 turns of 25SWG, 15 X M4 threaded rods as the core... < These are my control coils, what i keep the same so that i can make a comparison...
Drive voltage input: 14.2 Volts
Gen Voltage output: 17.8 Volts
Now, before someone asks for the current, I didn't measure it...
Why? Coz theirs no point... the gen coils will only give me ~4mA output due to the resistance...
Current was NOT what i was looking for...
My tests conclude that with this interference method, voltage output is NOT proportional to input voltage... It's a curve!!! It's logarithmic...
Increasing my input voltage by 2 volts has almost doubled my RPM and thus it's more than doubled my gen output voltage...
What does this mean... well, once i stack up enough coils to produce the current, a slight increase in RPM over the minimum will produce more voltage which is fed into the input which will increase the speed, which will increase generated voltage, which will increase speed... etc etc...
And in English, what does that mean? it means that once i have it self sustaining it will 'runaway'. Basically the RPM will climb to a point where ether the drive coil melts down or the bearings incinerate...
I just ordered 1 500g real of 18SWG wire for a test gen coil...
18SWG wire is THREE times thicker than 25SWG as such, I’ve made a new gen-coil that’s THREE times longer...
Tonight I’ll start winding 25SWG wire on to make sure i get the same or higher results with a longer coil as I do with my control coils...
[inserts dvd, turns volume up]
1500 to go...
1499 to go...
1498 to go...
1497 to go...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
477 Posts |
Posted - 05/09/2009 : 7:39:36 PM
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this afternoon i finished my coil winder...
i timed it to do 1000 windes... 8 mins!
I need to make a few adjustments because the carage didn't function quite right...
But 8 mins againsed 5 hours to do 1000 windes is better than i was expecting...
A little bit of fettling and i'll get it right...
Tomarow, i start building my USO tomarow... I have built a 'real' for my large size gen coil just to make sure it can fit in my winder... so not i have all the 'fixed' size pieces to the puzzle i can start working out the other sizes...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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Fabonheur
New Member
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2009 : 04:22:22 AM
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Hi. Can you show us your coil winder?
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Originally posted by comwarrior
this afternoon i finished my coil winder...
i timed it to do 1000 windes... 8 mins!
I need to make a few adjustments because the carage didn't function quite right...
But 8 mins againsed 5 hours to do 1000 windes is better than i was expecting...
A little bit of fettling and i'll get it right...
Tomarow, i start building my USO tomarow... I have built a 'real' for my large size gen coil just to make sure it can fit in my winder... so not i have all the 'fixed' size pieces to the puzzle i can start working out the other sizes...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
477 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2009 : 06:30:19 AM
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i have a video of it during construction on utube...
once i get the 18 gauge wire i'll do another...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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comwarrior
Moderator
United Kingdom
477 Posts |
Posted - 13/09/2009 : 8:57:00 PM
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the 18 gauge wire was too stiff for it, so i ended up doing it by hand...
However, i may be unwinding one of my control coils to try another variable in my generator coil setup...
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"Energy can not be created nor distroyed, it can only be changed into other forms" - so lets do some changing!
"Every Action has an equal and opposite re-action" - Why not use the re-action to create an additional action?
95% efficiency, I dare you to do better!
http://www.youtube.com/user/comwarrior69 |
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shubhamforme
Starting Member
India
8 Posts |
Posted - 23/09/2009 : 12:27:35 PM
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this is one of the very best and simple yet very effective and cheap solid state self triggring radiant oscillator or charger...
please give me your feed feed back and views...
i had recently desulphated 3 of my 5 years old 12v 80amp lead acid car battery...now they hold a charger quite properly....
and i had simply use a 1amp 9v pus or power supply for input...
heres the link to circuit.....
download it and enjoy---
link--- http://www.ziddu.com/download/6550683/envelope.jpg.html
thanks
shubh!!!!
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Self Powered Magnetic Spinning Motor
I have no idea how true to life these are, but since I have the stuff... maybe later this evening I'll give one a shot. WTH...